Am I the only one.... - Page 2

Idyll · 04-09-2018, 08:47 PM

I've never seen so many people butt-hurt over a refresh; it's worse than the rice forums! Everyone thinks the refresh is horrible, yet the sales are dismal for the model they bought. I don't get it.

I love the refresh on all the models, and especially the SS! To me it makes the current model already look dated. If I had purchased a 2018 over the weekend I'd be curled up in the fetal position in bed right now, and that's coming from someone who loves the 2018.

Boost Creep · 04-09-2018, 09:15 PM

I like the turbo four 1LE and refresh other than the SS front end, tails may grow on me, but the SS front, no.

Uncle Sam · 04-09-2018, 09:24 PM

I am going with a "not as good" on the SS refresh. Looks reminiscent of the Corsica, you have to be old to remember those, in the curviness of the grill and the big black hole is too Lexus, especially with the silver bow tie there.

I would still buy it for the performance but it doesn't look as good, 90% overall versus 97% for the 2017. The odd little body colored wings that go nowhere are not pleasing on the SS. I might say the tail lights are little better or a wash.

metros11 · 04-09-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

Am I seriously the only one that loves the look of the new Turbo 4 1LE?!?! I know most people are really focused on the refreshed SS and I agree that that one is very polarizing but I think they did a very good job with the RS mainly the new RS 1LE!

Come on somebody back me up here! Also who wants to guess where this thing will end up as far as autocross classing goes?!?!

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I need to see a side profile of the nose before I place judgement. From other pics, it looks like the top grill is too far recessed from where the bumper sticks out, and the bow tie isn't centered. It's messing with my OCD.

DanSS24 · 04-09-2018, 10:14 PM

Fact of the matter is that, Camaro enthusiast will always find a way to make an okay looking car look hot. I like the new refresh and I know upgrades that I would do first is to work on the suspension and brakes, for performance, not just for looks. Then mild engine mods and that's it. Everyone is different. Gabe's rendering was totally awesome and so much better looking.

arpad_m · 04-09-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TX Stig

I've never seen so many people butt-hurt over a refresh; it's worse than the rice forums! Everyone thinks the refresh is horrible, yet the sales are dismal for the model they bought. I don't get it.

I love the refresh on all the models, and especially the SS! To me it makes the current model already look dated. If I had purchased a 2018 over the weekend I'd be curled up in the fetal position in bed right now, and that's coming from someone who loves the 2018.

It's a perception thing, though. If you had been told the one on the left was the old model and the one on the right was the refresh, honestly, would you still think the latter is dated? Say, if the lighting on this pre-refresh SS photo was even moderately decent?

JamesNoBrakes · 04-09-2018, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyman2

Change is always hard,everyone likes to think thier generation model run is the best.

Naw, I don't agree with that. Some people do, just because they spent a lot of money, but I freely admitted that I liked the previous generation of 3-series cars better than my 4 series when I had it. The driving dynamics were better and I liked the styling better too. This is generally well-known in the BMW circles (that the F cars were pretty screwed up). I think the 16-18 camaro got it right with the styling for the most part. Even the V6 and 4cyl models looked good. You are right about the wind tunnel, but small tweaks are just that too, small incremental changes that aren't very significant, unlike going from 5th gen to 6th gen. This would not be the first time that the redesign was generally disliked. One of the most recent I can think of is the mustang, but they didn't screw that up quite as bad as this.

Admittedly, the camaro is like a brick in the air, 20s aren't helping here either...

I like the 4cyl 1LE concept, the styling is pretty bad...

TrackClub · 04-10-2018, 01:27 AM

As per my post in the general section (gong show) i happen to like the refresh. The car has lost its aggressivness but gained a revised retro look imo.

Also to me the new SS front end matches the overall body better. And the rear end got fixed way beyond just the lights.

Bottom line i think the car was overly aggressive and sports car vs muscle car looking for broad market. Hence dismal sales and hence the direction of the refresh. Just my opinion. Only sales numbers will show if they went in the right direction or not.

Kairles · 04-10-2018, 03:09 AM

The turbo 1LE has the best looking front end of the bunch. I dont like the tail lights, or head light though.

1970judge · 04-10-2018, 06:09 AM

This turbo 1LE is going to be a cone killers dream! Personal experience, I LOVE the way that car handles.

Buzzberd6 · 04-10-2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by brzfan

I thought it's in BS?

It is until January 2019, class changes don't usually go into effect until the first of the year, at least what I read somewhere.

And I thought they had moved it to FS, not DS.

motorhead · 04-10-2018, 07:17 AM

It looks great. Can't say that about the SS though.

apexit53 · 04-10-2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzberd6

It is until January 2019, class changes don't usually go into effect until the first of the year, at least what I read somewhere.

And I thought they had moved it to FS, not DS.

yeah it wont be classed this early. If you want it classed for next year around june july poeple need to write letters to the SEB.

My guess since the current turbo camaro is in DS and doing decently well this will go into BS. Pure speculation but they always try and bury special package cars so that its not required to have a special trim to win a class. Thats kinda why the v6 1LE was in BS last year rather than FS.

This car does have my eye but its hard to want to give up a V8 after owing one lol.

Idyll · 04-10-2018, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

It's a perception thing, though. If you had been told the one on the left was the old model and the one on the right was the refresh, honestly, would you still think the latter is dated? Say, if the lighting on this pre-refresh SS photo was even moderately decent?

I guess I'm the oddball, but I genuinely like the refresh. If I didn't, I'd be in a hurry to get a 2018 2SS 1LE while there's still plenty of inventory.

The only thing I'm not completely onboard with is the Flowtie in the middle of the bumper, but I don't give it much thought. To me the hood is 100x better, and it flows well with the roof. The LED's look mean and the I prefer the new taillights.

My biggest complaint is the A10 option, because before now I was set on a 6-speed, and now I'm up in the air. It was easier when it wasn't an option.

04-09-2018, 10:14 PM	#19
DanSS24 Drives: Dream Cars in my head Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 808 Posts: 1,290	Fact of the matter is that, Camaro enthusiast will always find a way to make an okay looking car look hot. I like the new refresh and I know upgrades that I would do first is to work on the suspension and brakes, for performance, not just for looks. Then mild engine mods and that's it. Everyone is different. Gabe's rendering was totally awesome and so much better looking. __________________ Wishful thinking...but I sure can dream big.

04-09-2018, 08:47 PM	#15
Idyll lost between two shores Drives: 2020 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: North Texas Posts: 138	I've never seen so many people butt-hurt over a refresh; it's worse than the rice forums! Everyone thinks the refresh is horrible, yet the sales are dismal for the model they bought. I don't get it. I love the refresh on all the models, and especially the SS! To me it makes the current model already look dated. If I had purchased a 2018 over the weekend I'd be curled up in the fetal position in bed right now, and that's coming from someone who loves the 2018.

04-09-2018, 09:15 PM	#16
Boost Creep Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 2,571	I like the turbo four 1LE and refresh other than the SS front end, tails may grow on me, but the SS front, no.

04-09-2018, 09:24 PM	#17
Uncle Sam Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LE Hyper Blue Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 373	I am going with a "not as good" on the SS refresh. Looks reminiscent of the Corsica, you have to be old to remember those, in the curviness of the grill and the big black hole is too Lexus, especially with the silver bow tie there. I would still buy it for the performance but it doesn't look as good, 90% overall versus 97% for the 2017. The odd little body colored wings that go nowhere are not pleasing on the SS. I might say the tail lights are little better or a wash.

04-10-2018, 01:27 AM	#22
TrackClub Drives: 2020 SS 1LE (previous: 2017 SS 1LE) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 5,091	As per my post in the general section (gong show) i happen to like the refresh. The car has lost its aggressivness but gained a revised retro look imo. Also to me the new SS front end matches the overall body better. And the rear end got fixed way beyond just the lights. Bottom line i think the car was overly aggressive and sports car vs muscle car looking for broad market. Hence dismal sales and hence the direction of the refresh. Just my opinion. Only sales numbers will show if they went in the right direction or not.

04-10-2018, 03:09 AM	#23
Kairles Drives: 2015 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Antelope, CA Posts: 208	The turbo 1LE has the best looking front end of the bunch. I dont like the tail lights, or head light though.

04-10-2018, 06:09 AM	#24
1970judge Drives: 2015 Z/28, 2007 HHR Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 1,148	This turbo 1LE is going to be a cone killers dream! Personal experience, I LOVE the way that car handles.

04-10-2018, 07:17 AM	#26
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	It looks great. Can't say that about the SS though.

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