[WATCH] Presenting the AWE Exhaust Suite for the Gen6 Camaro SS/ZL1. Available now. - Page 11

Dave/AWE · 01-21-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SloCal

I agree but don't think they really care what we want. As is evident by their posts glossing over the replies in here

What would you pay for a valved system? $2995?

Again, I'm not part of the team that decided not to offer NPP compatible exhausts for this market, but I'd love to take any and all feedback (as I have shared from this thread already with our sales team) to the New Product Team here and ask them to develop a business case for it.

z28pat · 01-22-2021, 08:30 AM

Dave/awe
I appreciate the response to our valves system concerns. I’m on the boat that I daily drive my car and want the car to that that substantial volume difference between modes. From my perspective the fact that AWE already has a valves system made it seem “easier” to add it to a camaro system but it’s obviously not that easy from a business standpoint that designed a system without valves from the get go. The fact that the car came factory optioned with valves makes me want to keep them, I don’t want actuators zip tied out of the way because they’re not being used. Price point I realize is another issue , I see that you’re not going to get a quality npp system for less than the competitors like borla/corsa which are $1700-$2000, and that’s ok, businesses have to make a profit.

WhiteMale · 01-22-2021, 11:01 AM

I cant fathom the Camaro crowd would swallow 2995 for a valved system...3" cat back that deletes the secondaries...MAYBE. But thats a lot of cheddar and in the business sense, there may not be the profitability there.

I did the axle back Touring and its fantastic, get's plenty of compliments on the tone and volume, and yes, it's got a loud bark on cold start. And yes, times it could be more palatable if it were quieter...but for the money valves arent worth it for me and NPP wasn't a factor in my car purchase.

ninetres · 01-22-2021, 04:33 PM

My thoughts on pricing are:

1. What does a comparable valved system from a comparable company retail for? We can all guess the “other” two big, reputable, and commonly used catback companies for 6G Camaros.
2. If an AWE valved system would retail for significantly more, it would obviously need to have features/benefits to justify the price delta. Otherwise I’d assume it should be priced similarly.

MakCamaro · 01-23-2021, 04:20 AM

I don't see why a valved AWE system would cost more than the competition, a Borla valved set of exhausts for example. My understanding, by going through the posts here, is that the majority would prefer a valved AWE exaust system. Afterall we paid extra in order to have this extra npp function on our cars, I don't see why we should be convinced that we don't need it. I absolutely love the sound of the AWE Touring exhausts and, if I had them on my car, I would keep the valves open most of the time. However, like most of the folks here, I need the npp function - there is a reason we paid extra for it.

01-22-2021, 11:01 AM	#143
WhiteMale Drives: 18 SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 158	I cant fathom the Camaro crowd would swallow 2995 for a valved system...3" cat back that deletes the secondaries...MAYBE. But thats a lot of cheddar and in the business sense, there may not be the profitability there. I did the axle back Touring and its fantastic, get's plenty of compliments on the tone and volume, and yes, it's got a loud bark on cold start. And yes, times it could be more palatable if it were quieter...but for the money valves arent worth it for me and NPP wasn't a factor in my car purchase. Last edited by WhiteMale; 01-22-2021 at 11:12 AM.

01-22-2021, 08:30 AM	#142
z28pat Drives: 2002 z28, 2018 2ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 658	Dave/awe I appreciate the response to our valves system concerns. I’m on the boat that I daily drive my car and want the car to that that substantial volume difference between modes. From my perspective the fact that AWE already has a valves system made it seem “easier” to add it to a camaro system but it’s obviously not that easy from a business standpoint that designed a system without valves from the get go. The fact that the car came factory optioned with valves makes me want to keep them, I don’t want actuators zip tied out of the way because they’re not being used. Price point I realize is another issue , I see that you’re not going to get a quality npp system for less than the competitors like borla/corsa which are $1700-$2000, and that’s ok, businesses have to make a profit.

01-22-2021, 04:33 PM	#144
ninetres Drives: Crush ZLE M6 \| 2000 Corvette FRC Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cencal Posts: 1,614	My thoughts on pricing are: 1. What does a comparable valved system from a comparable company retail for? We can all guess the “other” two big, reputable, and commonly used catback companies for 6G Camaros. 2. If an AWE valved system would retail for significantly more, it would obviously need to have features/benefits to justify the price delta. Otherwise I’d assume it should be priced similarly.

01-23-2021, 04:20 AM	#145
MakCamaro Makis Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS (EU) AT8 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: London - UK Posts: 325	I don't see why a valved AWE system would cost more than the competition, a Borla valved set of exhausts for example. My understanding, by going through the posts here, is that the majority would prefer a valved AWE exaust system. Afterall we paid extra in order to have this extra npp function on our cars, I don't see why we should be convinced that we don't need it. I absolutely love the sound of the AWE Touring exhausts and, if I had them on my car, I would keep the valves open most of the time. However, like most of the folks here, I need the npp function - there is a reason we paid extra for it.

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