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05-13-2020, 03:20 PM
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Another 500whp on stock heads/cam thread
Mainly wondering because I haven't seen a lot of bolt-on folks doing Holley/ZR1 combos without a cam... Is that because there aren't gains to be had without the cam or just because it's newer parts?
Curious if anyone has done the following setup and what it made... -E85 sensor/tune/fuel -2in catless headers -ported Holley hi-ram -ported ZR1/LT5 TB -intake (RF prob) -10% UD Pulley Wondering if 500whp or within 1-2% of that is possible on a 6MT
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05-13-2020, 09:19 PM
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          Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016
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It would be interesting to see, on a dynojet SAE.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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05-14-2020, 07:49 AM
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pray made 485/456 with this same setup last week. Unsure if car had 10% U/D pulley
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05-14-2020, 12:43 PM
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That would be mighty impressive if achieved, you'd be closing in on +100hp from stock without going inside the motor.
Do it and let us know the results! |
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05-14-2020, 02:44 PM
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Drives: Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2019
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My car just made 475rwhp on a loaded mustang dyno. I’ve got a stock 95mm throttle body, Hi-Ram, 2” hooker blackheart longtubes, and flex fuel. Car is an a8 car and pulls were done in 5th gear. Still need to add the ATI pulley and port the tb. Has an OTR cold air intake that I made.
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05-14-2020, 05:58 PM
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Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2012
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Mustang dyno. E85, 1 7/8 header, ported 95mm, Cai intake. Msd, x pipe. Have since gone to a rotofab so probobly picked up a few.
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05-14-2020, 06:29 PM
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Thanks guys. Really like the idea of buying another 1LE and just getting to 500whp (or very close) without the labor-intensive amount of work a cam needs. It wasn't really possible 12-18 months ago when I built my old 1LE.
Looks like it is nowadays 
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05-14-2020, 09:21 PM
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Drives: 17 2SS, 8L90, Cam, Heads, E85 Join Date: Dec 2016
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I put my cam and heads on in about a 3 week timeline that included taking the heads off and sending them off for porting. Yes I had a big mess and nothing was done "professionally" and cleanly but I basically had a garage floor, one little shelf/stand, and some cardboard boxes to lay stuff on. It really isn't an intricate job. The hardest parts for me was chasing/taping the head bolt holes to ensure they were clean enough to put the heads back on, so that meant a lot of bending over and wearing out my hands and arms turning the chaser/tap in the block. Pulling the radiator (or really pulling it out from the bottom, I think I remember how I did it?) is of course a pita, and sneaking it behind the AC condenser lines you have to really stretch it, I stretched mine enough to wear freon started leaking out but I kept going anyway. I think the most highly valued time saving special tool of the job is probably a flexible hose clamp pliers, which I didn't have at the time. |
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05-19-2020, 12:36 PM
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Here's my 2017 SS 1LE. Roto-Fab dry, 103mm TB, Ported MSD, 2" ARH headers, full 3" ARH exhaust, E85 at 78% e content. Red is when it was completely stock.
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05-19-2020, 12:58 PM
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aftermarket manifold is where the big gains are. Stocker is done early. Ported MSD or ported high ram will do work
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05-19-2020, 02:54 PM
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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05-20-2020, 02:07 PM
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05-20-2020, 07:20 PM
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Thank you |
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05-20-2020, 07:37 PM
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Also it's was cam only
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'17 SS 1LE - 1LAP 1LE (Now with more 427!) '18 F150 Platinum Powerstroke diesel '22 Kia EV6 First Edition '18 RS3 (1 of 2) Cumulus Blue '24 911 T (ordered) Formers... '19 RS5 Sportback Sonoma Green | '07 Cayman S 6MT | '16 Audi S3 Prestige Viper Green (APR Stage 3+) | '19 Mustang Shelby GT350R | '17 SS 1LE MBM 575whp all-motor |
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