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Old 01-25-2022, 11:05 AM   #43
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my buddy has a 22 1le in socal and he has been talking to ken at kns and apex to help them with fitment
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Old 01-25-2022, 11:12 AM   #44
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Ah got it. How much larger are the brake calipers from the regular zl1 calipers? You have a side by side photo or anything? Just curious.

I can take a better picture tonight or tomorrow of the copper free brakes.
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Old 01-25-2022, 02:51 PM   #45
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I can take a better picture tonight or tomorrow of the copper free brakes.
Thanks. I cant really tell a difference but do you know how big a difference they are between the two calipers? I dont see it being a significant difference but when you're talking about clearance in mm then yeah.
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:32 PM   #46
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RPO BCD is just copper free pads.....

Standard RPO J6H calipers......


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Not with the larger front calipers for the copper free brakes option - mandatory in California and Washington for 2022, optional elsewhere.

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Old 01-26-2022, 09:10 AM   #47
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Calipers may or may not be the same, but the rotors are definitely different and larger..


copper free brakes rotors: GM Genuine Parts Front Disc Brake Rotor #85137534
Outside Diameter 15.67 in / 397.99 mm

Regular ZL1 brake rotors: GM Genuine Parts Front Disc Brake Rotor #84271643 (177-1247)
Outside Diameter 15.36 in / 390.2 mm
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Old 01-26-2022, 09:31 AM   #48
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Rear calipers are standard J6H. Fronts J6H with BCD are definitely larger. I’ll have one on my list this afternoon or in the morning and will test fit a 18” and take pics of the larger caliper vs. a regular J6H front. It’s around 4mm larger to the outer radius and body length. I only have 3.5mm clearance to a regular J6H with SM10 18x11+7.
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:26 AM   #49
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I love the silver. Great decision!
Thanks. I dont have the wheels yet. These are just the initial "samples" that APEX got for the shoot. They didn't even get in the athracite or black in yet when they did mine. They dont drop for pre-order group buy until early February.

I do like this brushed clear but the only thing is in certain sunlight and angles it could look chrome which i dont like. Athracite to me doesn't contrast well with HBM and satin black is like the oem wheels. Difficult to see all the details and concavity with the black wheels. Only thing i really like about the brushed clear finish is you can see all the details of the spokes/wheel. If they only made a finish like double dark tint or brushed black tint that would be the choice for me. Since APEX wheels are painted and not powder coated, I'll probably get the brushed clear and have a body shop spray a tinted black clear over it to get the finish i want.
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:29 PM   #50
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Thanks. I dont have the wheels yet. These are just the initial "samples" that APEX got for the shoot. They didn't even get in the athracite or black in yet when they did mine. They dont drop for pre-order group buy until early February.

I do like this brushed clear but the only thing is in certain sunlight and angles it could look chrome which i dont like. Athracite to me doesn't contrast well with HBM and satin black is like the oem wheels. Difficult to see all the details and concavity with the black wheels. Only thing i really like about the brushed clear finish is you can see all the details of the spokes/wheel. If they only made a finish like double dark tint or brushed black tint that would be the choice for me. Since APEX wheels are painted and not powder coated, I'll probably get the brushed clear and have a body shop spray a tinted black clear over it to get the finish i want.
Really like the look of these and was surprised I liked the clear finish. Would prefer a color that's as close to oem as possible, not sure how far the athracite is off.
Also didn't realize these were painted as I think I'd rather a powdercoated finsh.
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Old 01-26-2022, 04:29 PM   #51
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Really like the look of these and was surprised I liked the clear finish. Would prefer a color that's as close to oem as possible, not sure how far the athracite is off.
Also didn't realize these were painted as I think I'd rather a powdercoated finsh.
Athracite is nice too but in certain lighting it just looks dark gray or sometimes brown. Or maybe its just my eyes LOL!

So if you google paint vs powdercoating, there have been a long controversial issue between the two when it comes to forged wheels because of the baking process being at or over 400 degrees. Many have said no issues powdercoating others have said it weakens the aluminum

The finish i would really like to get is brushed black tint like this from Vossen or BCForged but these are powder coat finishes.

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Old 01-27-2022, 01:26 PM   #52
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Rear calipers are standard J6H. Fronts J6H with BCD are definitely larger. I’ll have one on my list this afternoon or in the morning and will test fit a 18” and take pics of the larger caliper vs. a regular J6H front. It’s around 4mm larger to the outer radius and body length. I only have 3.5mm clearance to a regular J6H with SM10 18x11+7.
Like I thought, those with the copper free brakes on a SS or ZL1 (California, Washington for 2022 and up, plus any other state where you add it optionally) - the 18" won't work - unless you're okay with 0.5mm of clearance before any runout. Once again, this was a 18x11+7 SM-10, and not one of the new forged versions. However, Apex says the clearance should be the same.

The BCD / J6H front caliper is about 6mm longer up down in car position and about 3mm closer to the barrel also above the cross-bolt. I let Cory at Apex know. I have multiple sets of Apex wheels in 18", so, this is for FYI, not as a negative on Apex.
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Old 01-27-2022, 08:38 PM   #53
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Got my 18x11/18x12 a few days ago, shame its the middle of winter.

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