09-29-2022, 11:03 AM | #15 | |
Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 702
|
Quote:
All these built SS-1LE, what happens when you start modding ZL1s? Essentially it's the same chassis platform but the ZL1 has forged engine internals, an SC, and better OEM suspension components. I mean, if you threw everything and the kitchen sink at both cars my money would still be on the ZL1 to have the slight edge. No argument on consumables. ZL1 eats up tires but you can dial some of that out with tuning. My rears outlast my fronts now with my tuning which is unheard of. I can control how the power comes on with the timing. Ethanol doesn't do as much for an NA engine as it does for forced induction. It will certainly help, but you won't pick up 40-50hp like with the ZL1. Maybe 20hp in an SS. |
|
09-29-2022, 11:16 AM | #16 |
Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 702
|
ZL1+911
Greg AKA (MECHANICALENG) is a way better driver than I am. That is unanimous! Yet, my PB at Thunderbolt is 3 seconds faster than his (with traffic). Lightning is 0.6 seconds faster (with traffic). 3Rs are not 3 seconds faster than 3s. He's spent considerable time following me and he also told me that my car is not much faster than his down the straight. If Greg jumps in a ZL1-1LE ...and I've offered to let him drive my car, he absolutely crushes all of his PBs. |
09-29-2022, 12:04 PM | #17 |
Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Front Range, CO
Posts: 1,868
|
Good discussion. I have contemplated ordering a ZLE because I think it's not likely to depreciate, but not sure I actually want it due to the extra weight, complexity and consumables costs. My current SS 1LE is more ideal. I'm thinking I might rather have a Cayman or C8 which will be available new for longer, costs less to drive and having a mid engine car would be something different vs my SLE.
Also with the SS, a cam and headers would get you the same power as a ZLE, they really have +150 hp vs a SS as the supercharger costs 50 hp. The cost of doing this to an LT1 is kind of shocking compared to older Chevy small blocks though. I'd also like to replace the AFM lifters but can't do that without removing the heads. :(
__________________
|
09-29-2022, 01:13 PM | #18 | |
Drives: 2004 BMW 330CI, 2022 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: NC
Posts: 746
|
Quote:
I am actually willing to bet that 3R's are actually 3 seconds faster than the 3's. Depending on the track that is but I bet it's close to 3 seconds if not more at VIR. Last edited by Christian1LE; 09-29-2022 at 01:24 PM. |
|
09-29-2022, 01:27 PM | #19 |
Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 702
|
Fair play. Even if it were the case that there's a 3 sec delta between tires, he'd be on 3Rs just to "match" the time of a lesser driver like myself. He jumps in my car and he's running 27s all day.
|
09-29-2022, 01:43 PM | #20 |
Drives: 2004 BMW 330CI, 2022 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: NC
Posts: 746
|
Oh yeah I agree with you, the ZL1 is better all around if you're talking about speed. I don't think the SS 1LE is better at shorter tracks, they might be close but there is still a difference. Also sorry for contributing to hijacking your thread looking for a track ready SS1LE, if mine was track ready I would trade with you(OP).
|
09-29-2022, 02:09 PM | #21 |
Drives: '23 1LE, '18 Canyon, '87 325i Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Baton Rouge
Posts: 113
|
SS 1LE is easier on my wallet.
I'm a fan of "Less to go wrong" but the ZL1 1LE is in a league of it's own. She's quick. |
09-29-2022, 02:20 PM | #22 | |
Drives: SS1LE Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Maryland
Posts: 26
|
ZLE is faster, IF its on brand new R compound tires and driver knows where 4th gear is...
|
|
09-29-2022, 02:49 PM | #23 |
Drives: 997 GTS, ZL1 A10, ZLEM6, ZLEA10 Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: NYC/NJ
Posts: 630
|
Greg u need to drive my car next time and show me what you can do…
|
09-29-2022, 03:06 PM | #24 |
Drives: 17 SW 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: ROCKVILLE MD
Posts: 291
|
I could be into selling mine for the right price.
17 SS1LE 33k miles CMS rollbar OMP seats Schroth Harnesses Apex 19x11 wheels 305 square |
09-29-2022, 03:13 PM | #25 |
Drives: 997 GTS, ZL1 A10, ZLEM6, ZLEA10 Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: NYC/NJ
Posts: 630
|
|
09-29-2022, 04:52 PM | #26 |
Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 702
|
|
09-29-2022, 07:18 PM | #27 | |
Drives: 2017 Blue Camaro 1SS 1LE with PDR Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 962
|
Quote:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e9RVZkjZkek Your skill level will be the same if you switch to an SS 1LE and you will be slower than you were in your ZL1 1LE. SS 1LEs with faster lap times than ZL1 1LEs in the Best Track Times thread were driven by a better driver who got closer to the limit of available grip and/or drove in more ideal weather conditions. Hot weather laps for me are over 3% slower than optimal weather laps with everything else being equal at MSRH in my SS 1LE. That % is probably higher on the ZL1 1LE because of the supercharger. Now if you are holding back from driving faster in the ZL1 1LE because it is an expensive car and you are worried about losing control and crashing, maybe you will be more confident driving an SS 1LE but that is still not a cheap or slow car. |
|
09-29-2022, 07:40 PM | #28 | |
Drives: 2021 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: 98548
Posts: 612
|
Quote:
Ken
__________________
Follow my build - https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594295
|
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
|
|