Need the forum to be a judge on a transaction gone sideways

Zl1+911 · 11-06-2020, 08:25 AM

So, Club2000 sold his wheels to me on the forum. And then eventually backed out of the deal, calling me dishonest, shit and other abusive words. Instead of putting my point of view on the transaction, I am posting the full conversation via txt and for the forum to be the judge and provide feedback. I am not doing so in spite, but more in shock. Cant really understand how we went from being reasonable people to this. Anyways – please judge. Chub2000 believes that I screwed him. Wheels and my money are both with Club2000 as of now and he is not willing to entertain any conversation on this. Update - he just refunded me the money, but continues to say - that I screwed up.

gtfoxy · 11-06-2020, 08:36 AM

Pay-Pal, LOL!

Ya done screwed the pooch. You gave him the money via F&F, to avoid the fees, now when you want to file a dispute you have to explain you don’t really know the guy.

Aside from him returning your money willfully, you’re probably screwed.

Pay-Pal has some pretty aggressive protections for buyers, but that goes out the window when they are frauded out of their cut.

Good luck.

Zl1+911 · 11-06-2020, 08:37 AM

It was not paid f&f

SSallday · 11-06-2020, 09:26 AM

I believe that he is totally wrong. People usually use the “give to friends/ family” option because the money goes directly to the seller without shipping confirmation. Most people on the forum trust each other. He should have researched the price on the wheels. That’s his problem, not yours. He’s using the hold up as an excuse to make up for the fact that he screwed up on the price

gtfoxy · 11-06-2020, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zl1+911

It was not paid f&f

My bad.

Then file a complaint with PP.

WhiteMale · 11-06-2020, 09:48 AM

Ive never seen a F&F transaction get a hold on it but I'm an infrequent user of PayPal to see a whole lot but I've used it repeatedly and not had that. Only time I've seen a hold was having not used the F&F/gift option.

I see why he's pissed. I think he got tired of playing the back and forth with you, sorry, but I don't do this with people. it's 3-5 messages, either you're buying and picking up or I ghost you. I get it if he got tired of the all the messages then he saw the "hold" and said to hell with it.

I'd take it as a straighten yourself out to how you want to do and handle your business and deal with people straight away. Ive played this with people too much, my time is too valuable and I won't sell to people that play 20 questions and 20 messages.

I don't think the screenshots and griping in public is helpful.

TheRealJA105 · 11-06-2020, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SSallday

I believe that he is totally wrong. People usually use the “give to friends/ family” option because the money goes directly to the seller without shipping confirmation. Most people on the forum trust each other. He should have researched the price on the wheels. That’s his problem, not yours. He’s using the hold up as an excuse to make up for the fact that he screwed up on the price

This, he is the one that smells like shit here

closs2sx · 11-06-2020, 10:24 AM

he argued with me about the price i paid for my zl1 1le when he over paid for his back in 2018 so it sounds like he doesn't do transactions very well on either end.

Zl1+911 · 11-06-2020, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSallday

I believe that he is totally wrong. People usually use the “give to friends/ family” option because the money goes directly to the seller without shipping confirmation. Most people on the forum trust each other. He should have researched the price on the wheels. That’s his problem, not yours. He’s using the hold up as an excuse to make up for the fact that he screwed up on the price

Exactly my thinking

Vtor_ZL1 · 11-06-2020, 11:03 AM

Yeah, sounds like buyer wanted funds to be released before buyer picked up the goods.

Seller is probably sore listed parts for too low of price. It's your job to know market before you agree to a price.. or get labeled a douche bag.

Zl1+911 · 11-06-2020, 11:12 AM

I actually gave him the option of just saying “I am sorry I screwed up on the price, it will be x$”. I would have been fine with that. Using PayPal hold to dishonor the transaction is just slimy.

ember1205 · 11-06-2020, 12:26 PM

You're both wrong, for different reasons. The fact that you posted personal information about him in this public forum, including his home address, could put you at a liability risk. And this isn't something to be debated in public by either of you (IMHO).

Snowwolfe · 11-06-2020, 12:46 PM

We can all be judges but nothing anyone will say is going to change the results of what happened.

Zl1+911 · 11-06-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ember1205

You're both wrong, for different reasons. The fact that you posted personal information about him in this public forum, including his home address, could put you at a liability risk. And this isn't something to be debated in public by either of you (IMHO).

I had his consent to post publicly and secondly others need to know about his behavior so I don’t regret posting it

11-06-2020, 08:25 AM	#1
Zl1+911 Drives: 997 GTS, ZL1 A10, ZLEM6, ZLEA10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NYC/NJ Posts: 630	Need the forum to be a judge on a transaction gone sideways So, Club2000 sold his wheels to me on the forum. And then eventually backed out of the deal, calling me dishonest, shit and other abusive words. Instead of putting my point of view on the transaction, I am posting the full conversation via txt and for the forum to be the judge and provide feedback. I am not doing so in spite, but more in shock. Cant really understand how we went from being reasonable people to this. Anyways – please judge. Chub2000 believes that I screwed him. Wheels and my money are both with Club2000 as of now and he is not willing to entertain any conversation on this. Update - he just refunded me the money, but continues to say - that I screwed up. Attached Images Last edited by Zl1+911; 11-06-2020 at 01:04 PM.

11-06-2020, 10:24 AM	#8
closs2sx Drives: 1970 chevelle Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,427	he argued with me about the price i paid for my zl1 1le when he over paid for his back in 2018 so it sounds like he doesn't do transactions very well on either end. __________________ On Order 2018 ZL1 1LE Garnet Red Tint Coat Metallic MY Car 2015 Z06 Z07 Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic Dads Car 2013 ZL1 vin 963 Crystal Red Tint Coat/Black Wheels Exposed Carbon Fiber Insert 6 Spd Manual

11-06-2020, 11:03 AM	#10
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,771	Yeah, sounds like buyer wanted funds to be released before buyer picked up the goods. Seller is probably sore listed parts for too low of price. It's your job to know market before you agree to a price.. or get labeled a douche bag. __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

11-06-2020, 12:46 PM	#13
Snowwolfe Drives: CTV5 V Blackwing on order Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: East TN Posts: 431	We can all be judges but nothing anyone will say is going to change the results of what happened. __________________ 2022 CT5 V Blackwing with A10 2021 GMC Denali pickup with 6.2 and A10 2017 Ford Expedition

11-06-2020, 08:36 AM	#2
gtfoxy Account Suspended Drives: '21 Wild Cherry ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: WI Posts: 2,082	Pay-Pal, LOL! Ya done screwed the pooch. You gave him the money via F&F, to avoid the fees, now when you want to file a dispute you have to explain you don’t really know the guy. Aside from him returning your money willfully, you’re probably screwed. Pay-Pal has some pretty aggressive protections for buyers, but that goes out the window when they are frauded out of their cut. Good luck.

11-06-2020, 08:37 AM	#3
Zl1+911 Drives: 997 GTS, ZL1 A10, ZLEM6, ZLEA10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NYC/NJ Posts: 630	It was not paid f&f

11-06-2020, 09:26 AM	#4
SSallday Drives: ‘18 ZL1 / ‘22 ZLE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: PA Posts: 584	I believe that he is totally wrong. People usually use the “give to friends/ family” option because the money goes directly to the seller without shipping confirmation. Most people on the forum trust each other. He should have researched the price on the wheels. That’s his problem, not yours. He’s using the hold up as an excuse to make up for the fact that he screwed up on the price

11-06-2020, 09:48 AM	#6
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 1,991	Ive never seen a F&F transaction get a hold on it but I'm an infrequent user of PayPal to see a whole lot but I've used it repeatedly and not had that. Only time I've seen a hold was having not used the F&F/gift option. I see why he's pissed. I think he got tired of playing the back and forth with you, sorry, but I don't do this with people. it's 3-5 messages, either you're buying and picking up or I ghost you. I get it if he got tired of the all the messages then he saw the "hold" and said to hell with it. I'd take it as a straighten yourself out to how you want to do and handle your business and deal with people straight away. Ive played this with people too much, my time is too valuable and I won't sell to people that play 20 questions and 20 messages. I don't think the screenshots and griping in public is helpful.

11-06-2020, 11:12 AM	#11
Zl1+911 Drives: 997 GTS, ZL1 A10, ZLEM6, ZLEA10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NYC/NJ Posts: 630	I actually gave him the option of just saying “I am sorry I screwed up on the price, it will be x$”. I would have been fine with that. Using PayPal hold to dishonor the transaction is just slimy.

11-06-2020, 12:26 PM	#12
ember1205 Hot Camaro Drives: '20 2SS Convertible 6MT Join Date: May 2020 Location: CT Posts: 3,534	You're both wrong, for different reasons. The fact that you posted personal information about him in this public forum, including his home address, could put you at a liability risk. And this isn't something to be debated in public by either of you (IMHO).

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