[Idaho2018GTPremium]

It's the best looking 2008 car out there still for sale (GT-R is better looking but came a year later). Amazing they are still selling so well with only 1 refresh in the last 14 model years! HP sells, I guess.

I just couldn't seriously consider a Hellcat because they are too big, tall, and heavy. 4500+ lbs is a lot of car to move around.

[Staves]

The stock seats in the Challenger I found to be pretty horrendous as far as comfort goes. The alcantara ones were a little better but still disappointing.

[cerino2000]

If you are a straight line guy they are pretty hard to beat. I’ve owned 16 challengers and four chargers. Only complaint is that the standard RT’s are way too slow for the money. The power delivery between the 392’s and up is way favorable compared to my LT1. Dodge has fat torque across the whole rpm range where the Chevy motors sorta “wind up”. So under normal driving conditions, the mopars always feel like more power via seat of the pants. And you can’t deny that they must have something going on right if they can push a 4400 lb boat to consistent 10’s in the 1/4 with a Hellcat motor. The camaro however is a more compact ball of fun. Each has their purpose in life though. Depends on my mood for the day for which one I drive.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by cerino2000

If you are a straight line guy they are pretty hard to beat. I’ve owned 16 challengers and four chargers. Only complaint is that the standard RT’s are way too slow for the money. The power delivery between the 392’s and up is way favorable compared to my LT1. Dodge has fat torque across the whole rpm range where the Chevy motors sorta “wind up”. So under normal driving conditions, the mopars always feel like more power via seat of the pants. And you can’t deny that they must have something going on right if they can push a 4400 lb boat to consistent 10’s in the 1/4 with a Hellcat motor. The camaro however is a more compact ball of fun. Each has their purpose in life though. Depends on my mood for the day for which one I drive.

I disagree. I don't know why everyone says the Challengers are good straight line cars. They are pretty poor given how much hp they make because of their heavy weight and are pretty terrible from a dig because of the poor front/rear weight distribution. The Challengers are the worst in turns AND in a straight line between the Mustang, Camaro, and Challengers. The ZL1 is better 0-60 than any Hellcat variant on the street. The Hellcat is barely quicker than a ZL1 60-130 mph despite having well over 700 hp. A Redeye does a few tenths better than a regular Hellcat, but it's 797 hp. And comparing the Hellcat to a GT500 is not very close in a straight line, much less around turns - Redeye closes the gap some from a roll vs the GT500.

Also, the A10 Mustang GT and SS are basically dead even 60-130 mph (a slight advantage to the GT), however, the SRT 392 Challenger is nearly a second slower than the GT 60-130 mph. In some Youtube tests (same day same driver) it's 1.5 seconds slower 60-130 mph. It's also nearly 1/2 second slower 0-60 mph than the GT A10.

The Challenger performance variants are definitely cool cars, but they aren't very good performance vehicles compared to the Mustang and Camaro, trim for trim, in a straight line or around turns.

[cerino2000]

I’ll sure let you know soon enough. I’m just waiting to get my break in done and I’ll be comparing the performance factors of each. At this point I expect the camaro to be quicker 60-130. I expect the scat pack to be quicker in the 1/8th and I’m going to give the edge to the camaro in the 1/4 once I figure out what it likes. I expect the scat Charger to be more consistent though. I base this prediction off of a lot of GM experience at least through my 2017 corvette from 2 years ago. The challenger and Charger are certainly more comfortable as daily drivers but I expect that just based on the size. My break in is nearly done so we’ll see how close I get soon enough!

[rocket403]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

I disagree. I don't know why everyone says the Challengers are good straight line cars. They are pretty poor given how much hp they make because of their heavy weight and are pretty terrible from a dig because of the poor front/rear weight distribution.

I see that the Challengers are so bad from a dig 11.98 I guess is bad from a dig

[cerino2000]

My 1320 ran 11.7’svall day bone stock. Others in fatter air were less than that

[rocket403]

Originally Posted by cerino2000

My 1320 ran 11.7’svall day bone stock. Others in fatter air were less than that

I talked to my salesman about trading my 2010 FF R/T in for a 1320 the car in the video was the colour that I wanted, around that time my youngest decided to take an offer to go to a Michigan University to play hockey, even with the full ride the cost was huge with the 30% loss for the Can dollar so no new cars in my near future.

[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by rocket403

I talked to my salesman about trading my 2010 FF R/T in for a 1320 the car in the video was the colour that I wanted, around that time my youngest decided to take an offer to go to a Michigan University to play hockey, even with the full ride the cost was huge with the 30% loss for the Can dollar so no new cars in my near future.

That sucks but your kids have that chance once if they get it so I don’t blame you. What dealer did you go to about the 1320?

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by rocket403

I see that the Challengers are so bad from a dig 11.98 I guess is bad from a dig

I should have clarified I was referring to the street on my "from a dig" comment. That video is of a 1320 at a prepped drag surface, so that obviously helps. Also the 1320 is basically a NA factory drag car. Trans brake, drag tuned dampers, etc., so I would expect it to launch pretty hard on a prepped surface. And it was - that front end rise looked cool.

Even still, it was trapping 2.5-3 mph less than the GT next to it. That's sort of my point about the straight line prowess from a roll - the GT next to it wasn't launching as hard but was trapping 2.5-3 mph higher with less power (assuming both were stock).

The 392s and Hellcats are cool cars and the higher trim ones catch my eye on the street, but I probably wouldn't buy one. But, I am sure glad they make them. The more V8 powered muscle cars the better, IMO.

[rocket403]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

That sucks but your kids have that chance once if they get it so I don’t blame you. What dealer did you go to about the 1320?

The salesman that I have bought my last 4 cars from (including my Daughters 300S) is at Peel. With having someone that gives me his discount numbers and my sales guy I have saved huge coin.

I have owned Mustangs, been there and done that. I'm not saying that I would never own one again (never is a long time) but I would never own a new one, same with the Camaro. I'm a Muscle Car guy not a sports car owner, I go to the 1/4 mile track.

[Scottyz]

Nice. Good contacts to have.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

The 392s and Hellcats are cool cars and the higher trim ones catch my eye on the street, but I probably wouldn't buy one. But, I am sure glad they make them. The more V8 powered muscle cars the better, IMO.

This basically nailed my thoughts on them.

I mentioned this somewhere before, but I used to want one so badly. Then I got into an RX-8 and I just can't imagine living with something that handles poorly. That's why the Corvette and now Camaro are easy choices for me.

I definitely like their looks and my friend's Hellcat Charger whine is orgasmic, but yeah, I wouldn't own one myself.

There was actually a guy on this forum that ran against a 392 and supposedly he outran the 392. The power-to-weight ratio is actually better on the SS. The 392 is just that heavy.

[Mrbobcat]

I had been wanting to get a Challenger for a couple years now. But the timing wasn't right as far as paying down my Mustang enough and trying to decide on a trim, ect. I finally have about 12-14k equity in the stang, but now I'm in the process of closing on a house. I was going to go get one right after, but will most likely be bundling my car and house insurance to get the best rates and they are quoting me $65 a month to insure my stang. So I'm not sure I will want to double that up on a new car right away. I may stay with Allstate though since I am down to a $200 deductible with the vanishing rewards and if I were to go with State Auto, I would be back up to $500. But $30 less a month and would also save 20% on the house insurance if I switched. Anyway, back to trims. I originally wanted a regular scat with the dynamics and adaptive damping, but the 1320 is in the same price range. I thought about the T/A's for a minute and also the shaker, but decided against them. Then I wanted the widebody, but IDK looks kind of funny from the side and then when switching out to smaller wheels in the winter even worse. Now I'm thinking maybe the 50th edition if I can find one left in a color I like, but most likely will just order a 1320. Its the fastest stock NA muscle car at the moment, but the mach 1 may give it a run for its money next year. I just think they are asking too much for basically a bullitt with a facelift. If the Camaro looked better from the front, had a bigger trunk and they offered better rebates like Dodge and Ford does, it would be higher on my list. Heck I think I like the 400z better, but still don't know when it will come out.