07-08-2020, 02:06 PM | #43 |
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You can also roll a ZL1 and then not be satisfied and upgrades are expensive and sacrifice the warranty. If you are thinking about getting married, I would not roll a car that is not EASILY affordable. Like easy.
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08-28-2020, 06:24 AM | #44 | |
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I bought my ZL1 slightly used with 900 miles certified for $56k and find the all around performance under warranty satisfying. In the end modding and racing is a slippery slope endless money pit for power junkies... Not overthinking it like me, if you just care about straight line performance, the gen6 SS or especially the 18+ Stang 5.0 (I know this is a camaro forum ) are probably better bangs for the buck, especially if bought used and building from there.
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09-02-2020, 12:41 PM | #46 |
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OP I agree with OldMan.
OP been there and back. I owned a M6 2016 2SS boltin making just under 500 (guesstimate after making 460 and then adding E85 ans MSD porting. But no dyno for that setup. At the time though I was running almost 120 MPH in good air but my ETs were high 11s. Those "slow" ETs were due to the GM bog for which there was no solution at the time. I sols that car in 2 days :( and bought an A10 ZL1. Stock with DRs and a Rotofab I ran some 11.1s. (there is a GM bog here too). In the end I got bored with an automatic, (but the A10 is a good one) and sold my 1 year old ZL1 and flushed $18K+ down the toilet. I missed my SS. I found myself drawn to the LT1 and it is my favorite Camaro ever. Here is the thread where I raced my 6th gen Camaros https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450694 My LT1 build thread explains some of this and here is my mils SS bolton thread: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449542 OP I alaso think it would be a huge mistake to take out the Recaros for SS seats. Although they are very good seats also. I made sure my LT1 has them. Camaro REcaros are one of the best compromise sport/track/comfort seats in any car ever.
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09-03-2020, 06:20 AM | #47 |
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ZL1 keeping your powertrain warranty
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09-03-2020, 10:45 AM | #48 |
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I say if you care about the warranty, just get a ZL1 and leave it stock, if not, modding the SS will be more fun, not cheaper in the long run, but you'll get to enjoy every step of the journey. A stock ZL1 will not be faster for long if you start modding an SS in earnest.
On a highly subjective note, apart from the 'alcantara everything' theme that is a relatively easy fix, there are other cosmetic aspects I don't like about the ZL1 that are difficult or expensive to address: the vertical DRLs, the gaping "bird magnet" grille holes, the broken up hood and the wheels. Again, these are highly subjective.
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Since you already have the SS your best bet is to go ahead and mod it. Unless you're bored with it. In which case you should go ahead and grab the ZL1.
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10-11-2020, 10:46 PM | #50 |
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Making that decision is certainly a tough one. I upgraded my 2SS with a supercharger and it gave me all I really want. I feel certain it would give most stock cars a pretty good run for the money and I don't have over $50k in it. My SC plus install was less than $8K. I love it.
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