[bharabs]

Originally Posted by IOMike

I think you will be surprised. The SS gives the gt350 a run for its money already.

Looks like Mustang and Dodge are already doing that to the 6th gen Camaro based on sales numbers. But yeah, I do get your point.

Somehow, I feel this board is too focused on the performance part of the camaro and discount a lot of issues with the 6th gen design. When it comes to actually buying a car, it would matter a lot as I can't just go by a car that's better on paper.

If you are going to buy a car to track, then yeah, don't look any further, but if you want a DD which keeps you excited, then the competition is stiff.

[Cam 6]

Originally Posted by Thor142

Improved over what? That's what we're saying. Most people don't even know the capabilities of their gen 6 ss. What exactly are you improving on? Do you need bigger brakes to handle the heat? The ESLD to put power down better on corner exit? More rubber to eliminate some understeer and give you better lateral grip? Oh wait. No you don't cause you're not tracking it.

But hey if you want to buy it cause it looks cool and you like the seats that is a perfectly valid reason. It's just kinda like dating super hot chick and not banging her.

But she's still on your arm. Good for the ego.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by IOMike

I think you will be surprised. The SS gives the gt350 a run for its money already.

I think that's a stretch. They have never compared the two on a track, let alone directly.

The Z06 and ACR compared well in instrumented testing but the ACR crushed the Z06 on the track.

[WhyUMad1LE]

I don't see 1LE beating GT350R. Seems like an unfair comparison to me.. 1LE will cost significantly less than even the regular GT350. Z/28 is the GT350R competitor.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

I don't see 1LE beating GT350R. Seems like an unfair comparison to me.. 1LE will cost significantly less than even the regular GT350. Z/28 is the GT350R competitor.

Yep. The 1LE will be close to the GT350. Can't wait for the H2H with Randy Pobst

[RideZX6R]

Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

I don't see 1LE beating GT350R. Seems like an unfair comparison to me.. 1LE will cost significantly less than even the regular GT350. Z/28 is the GT350R competitor.

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Yep. The 1LE will be close to the GT350. Can't wait for the H2H with Randy Pobst

I feel like the 1LE will likely take a GT350 in everything other than straight line accel numbers. Which, considering the 1LE should be about $9-12k LESS (Assuming 1LE won't be above $50k - GT350 coupe with convenience pack is $60k basically), makes it a better deal.

The GT350R however, well that'll be what the Z/28 eats for lunch

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by RideZX6R

I feel like the 1LE will likely take a GT350 in everything other than straight line accel numbers. Which, considering the 1LE should be about $9-12k LESS (Assuming 1LE won't be above $50k - GT350 coupe with convenience pack is $60k basically), makes it a better deal.

The GT350R however, well that'll be what the Z/28 eats for lunch

This is why you guys should take your cars to the track. Paper racing is fun and I love the H2H with RP doing hot laps but if you can't drive it's just bragging about some one else's skill. I absolutely SMOKED a GT350 last time out. And I'm still in the fat pig 5th gen.

BTW the GT350 sounds amazing and is a gorgeous car in person.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Thor142

This is why you guys should take your cars to the track. Paper racing is fun and I love the H2H with RP doing hot laps but if you can't drive it's just bragging about some one else's skill. I absolutely SMOKED a GT350 last time out. And I'm still in the fat pig 5th gen.

BTW the GT350 sounds amazing and is a gorgeous car in person.

Since one isn't out yet, paper racing is all there is.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I think that's a stretch. They have never compared the two on a track, let alone directly.

The Z06 and ACR compared well in instrumented testing but the ACR crushed the Z06 on the track.

I really don't think the 1le has anything to worry about with the gt350, not one bit besides trap speed.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by IOMike

Since one isn't out yet, paper racing is all there is.

+1

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

The seats alone will sell the car

Or NOT sell the car as they are standard.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457196

The seats if like some other Recaros only fit a "normal" body type. So if you're small, big, broud shouldered, etc it could make for quite an uncomfortable fit as they do not give you a S, M, L size choice like if you bought them from Recaro yourself. And being they are standard, you can't opt for the regular seats either. This is my worry being that I'm 6' 2", 250 pounds with very wide shoulders. The Recaros in the Ford ST's are very uncomfortable for me as my shoulders don't fit flat in the seat. This is my worry with the 1LE...

[Hooves]

I'm plenty happy with folks buying the 1LE to look cool vs taking it to the track. That just means there will be lightly used ones available when I'm ready to upgrade from the 1SS!

[mjk3888]

I'm not sure why you some of you are calling the GT350 comparisons unfair. If you want apples to apples the 1LE was supposed to compare to the GT performance pack, but we all know how that would turn out! By some of your logic, the M4 comparison wasn't fair either and look how that turned out. Face it the Camaros shoot a lower handicap than the Mustangs so they get compared to cars out of its league. Yes the GT350 has the power advantage, but no one seems to acknowledge the torque advantage the SS has. The 1LE WILL come out of turns faster than the GT350 (assuming both have the same ability to put down the power exiting, think ELSD and PTM) however on larger straights the GT350 will reel in the 1LE. Now none of us will know how close they are on small tracks until we start seeing reviews, but I believe a few bolt ons will seriously even the playing field and might even give the 1LE the edge in track times.

[Bhobbs]

The 1LE will be part of the Best Drivers Car comparison.