[Mr. Meh]

Originally Posted by ICEing

This made my day lol. Since we had this disagreement he hasn't said much other than I'm too scared to street race, yet isn't willing to meet me at a desterted straight road and instead wants to race through a crowded freeway (Hutchinson River Parkway for you NY people) at 5pm after work, which I'm not willing to do. So pretty much nothing's happening and I've given up trying to get him to race on an empty road or even a track.

Meanwhile he wraps his Audi a different color every other week and waits for people to get out of the building and revs his engine in the parking lot so people can look at him.

Sounds like he wants a moving slalom with a John Q "I can't drive for crap" Public randomizer.. That's not a test of skill or machine, it's a test of stupidity.. Even if both of you were the best drivers in the world, you can't account for the dude that's 0.2s from spilling his coffee and lurching in to your lane or the mother of 19 in her Tankmobile that's one "don't make me come back there" away from turning you in to a hood ornament..

Just set up some cones in an unused parking lot and have at it.

But, from your commentary.. He's "one of those" types that no matter what you do, he's always better, been there, done that, etc. and will have 10 million excuses if you win... and like the saying goes.

"It is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." "

[Godfatha]

Just laugh at the douche and walk away. It's enough to know you could smoke his effeminate butt.

[HighGs]

Originally Posted by Godfatha

Just laugh at the douche and walk away. It's enough to know you could smoke his effeminate butt.

Having seen countless YouTube reviews and Mustang-Camaro comparisons, I was searching for atypical comparisons (e.g., Challenger-Audi TT, etc.), and I found this tread. Here are some Car & Driver numbers which migh explain the perspective of the TT coworker.

Porsche 718 Boxster S
———————————-
0-60: 4.3
0-100: 9.8
0-130: 16.7
0-150: 25.0
Rolling start, 5-60: 5.3
Top gear: 30-50: 7.8
Top gear: 50-70: 5.7
Standing 1/4 mile: 12.6 @ 113 mph
Top Speed: 177
Braking 60-0: 144
Skidpad G’s: 1.04

Camaro SS ZL1
———————-
0-60: 4.1
0-100: 9.2
0-130: 15.9
0-150: 25.4
Rolling start, 5-60: 4.8
Top gear: 30-50: 10.6
Top gear: 50-70: 10.0
Standing 1/4 mile: 12.4 @116 mph
Top Speed: 165
Braking 60-0: 141
Skidpad G’s: 1.05

Audi TTS
———————-
0-60: 4.2
0-100: 10.7
0-130: 20.6
Rolling start, 5-60: 5.6
Top gear: 30-50: 2.7
Top gear: 50-70: 3.1
Standing 1/4 mile: 108
Top Speed: 155
Braking 60-0: 157
Skidpad G’s: .98

I’m going to need to replace one or two cars in the next year. I’ve had two Prosches, two Mustangs, an Rx7, a Benz, a couple of VWs. The gen6 Mustang I drove didn’t push any nostalgic Mustang buttons. I’ve liked Camaros too. The ‘67 SS convertible my friend’s parents bought new made a strong childhood impression.

I’ve configured the gen 6 Camaro many times over the last couple of years. Searching for question answers brings me back to this site; but I have to say guys, ... discourse like this thread kind of perpetuates the bad Camaro owner’s rep. I like the car, and I’d like to buy American this next go around, but ... I just don’t think I can be a part of this tribe. I’m not enraged or deeply offended, I just wouldn’t want to be associated with it.

Ya know Godfatha, some people think all convertibles are hair stylist cars. I myself would probably go for a BMW M240ix or an Audi S4 before a TT, but I can see why it might appeal to some people. It’s compact, sporty, and has AWD. For some, it’s a nice alternative to the AWD Challenger.

[oldman]

I really like the new Audi TT-RS
https://www.caranddriver.com/audi/tt-rs

My nephew is into these and now that he is a Major and no kids, he is looking to roll one soon. I'm sure we will do the intercooler, turbo?, chip, downpipe, CAI upgrade for some stupid HP. That's OK I'm doing a full built + supercharger on my "stock" SS.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by HighGs

Having seen countless YouTube reviews and Mustang-Camaro comparisons, I was searching for atypical comparisons (e.g., Challenger-Audi TT, etc.), and I found this tread. Here are some Car & Driver numbers which migh explain the perspective of the TT coworker.

Porsche 718 Boxster S
———————————-
0-60: 4.3
0-100: 9.8
0-130: 16.7
0-150: 25.0
Rolling start, 5-60: 5.3
Top gear: 30-50: 7.8
Top gear: 50-70: 5.7
Standing 1/4 mile: 12.6 @ 113 mph
Top Speed: 177
Braking 60-0: 144
Skidpad G’s: 1.04

Camaro SS ZL1
———————-
0-60: 4.1
0-100: 9.2
0-130: 15.9
0-150: 25.4
Rolling start, 5-60: 4.8
Top gear: 30-50: 10.6
Top gear: 50-70: 10.0
Standing 1/4 mile: 12.4 @116 mph
Top Speed: 165
Braking 60-0: 141
Skidpad G’s: 1.05

Audi TTS
———————-
0-60: 4.2
0-100: 10.7
0-130: 20.6
Rolling start, 5-60: 5.6
Top gear: 30-50: 2.7
Top gear: 50-70: 3.1
Standing 1/4 mile: 108
Top Speed: 155
Braking 60-0: 157
Skidpad G’s: .98

Not sure where you got those ZL1 numbers from but they are not correct at all. Maybe you meant an SS?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...al-test-review

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rm-test-review

(Assuming you wanted the manual trans numbers)

Also you left off the TTS time which is what matters anyway. 12.8 vs 12.4 is a bus length+ in the 1/4. The TTS would only be competitive to 60 due to AWD. So the numbers of 0-60 is the only place the Audi owner would even get that idea, and shows how little he understands about the performance of his car.

[StudioRSR_Ben]

Well guys, to be honest both are two completely diffewrent animals. Numbers don't always tell everything. Factor in the DSG transmission and engine tuning capabilities. From a roll i'd put money the Camaro will take it, but be careful with what those cars can do with a tune. Most are running 11's with a stage 1 tune.

[Atomic Ed]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

The TT always was and always will be a hair dresser's car, RS or not.

Couldn't agree more on this. Before I met my S.O., I dated two different hair dressers when I was out and about in the TT. Chick's car indeed!

My TT is modified with a Garrett 3071 turbo and stoked to 2.1 liter; roughly 420 awhp. These old engine blocks are nearly indestructible and can handle 800-1000 hp with ease. No doubt in my mind that the little "Angry Gnat" would pull my E-Force SS for the first 50-100 feet.

The TTs don't come with the usual Quattro AWD, so changing the load transfer to full time AWD is just a matter of changing out a controller plug. Kinda fun to see all four tires smoking!

My SS is a much better car all around as compared to my 2001 TT. But the TT still sits in my garage waiting for me to get it back into road shape and drop the top for a cruise.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by oldman

I really like the new Audi TT-RS
https://www.caranddriver.com/audi/tt-rs

My nephew is into these and now that he is a Major and no kids, he is looking to roll one soon. I'm sure we will do the intercooler, turbo?, chip, downpipe, CAI upgrade for some stupid HP. That's OK I'm doing a full built + supercharger on my "stock" SS.

The TTRS in stock form leaves a little to be desired, HOWEVER, it does not take much to turn them into hell on wheels.

I had the previous gen. TTRS and with just an APR Stage 1 tune, MSS springs (to dial out the understeer), and extreme performance tires (RE-11, Advan Neo AD08r) and a camber adjustment, it was no joke.

The biggest thing that the TTRS lacks is the ability to put a wider tire on there to really be able to increase the lateral g's.

While the TTRS used the Halex AWD and not Quattro, It gets the job done quite well. With a stage 1 tune, extreme performance tires, and the nannies off, I used to be able to take a 180 degree U-turn from a stop light and go full throttle and get just a mild 4 wheel drift and just take off quicker than you knew what just happened.

From a stop light dig, I caught many sport bikes off guard.

If it wasn't for the $30K price difference, I would have chosen the new TTRS over the 2SS 1LE and put a little into it.

[Blazin383]

Cant speak to the TT,but I whipped a buddy in his V8 RS5 from a roll at many different speeds at a local track. From a dig he jumped out a couple cars but I quickly reeled him in and pulled past him in my 16 2SS A8 by simply leaving the traction control on and nailing it, letting the tranny shift itself. He had a VTR tune, CAI, and exhaust, and I am bone stock. I expected it to be much closer based on all the stats. I will say the Audi V8 sounded pretty wicked though.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Blazin383

Cant speak to the TT,but I whipped a buddy in his V8 RS5 from a roll at many different speeds at a local track. From a dig he jumped out a couple cars but I quickly reeled him in and pulled past him in my 16 2SS A8 by simply leaving the traction control on and nailing it, letting the tranny shift itself. He had a VTR tune, CAI, and exhaust, and I am bone stock. I expected it to be much closer based on all the stats. I will say the Audi V8 sounded pretty wicked though.

The V8 RS5 is weak compared to the TTRS (especially a tuned one). The V8 RS5 is like the E90 M3, high raving, but nothing happens until 6,000 RPM. It also weights 4,000 lbs, the last gen RS5 was rather weak all around.