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Old 04-08-2015, 01:04 AM   #281
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I'm just excited its going to be lighter. I'm one of those few guys that love the retro look. I'm hoping its similar to the 5th gen, just smaller and lighter, and I hope it has a unique interior. I really like the 5th gen interior. I like the gauge pods, but I think we are loosing those.

I just want it to scream Camaro !!!!!!!
But….I love the 4 gauge pod thingy….It's another small thing that I will miss a lot. Just like the "gills" on the sides.
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:29 AM   #282
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But….I love the 4 gauge pod thingy….It's another small thing that I will miss a lot. Just like the "gills" on the sides.
Are you sure they will be gone? For one whe have not seen anything about the interior, and two we may still have gills but they might be a different depth or style, you cannot really tell on the Camoed cars what the details are.
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Old 04-08-2015, 09:53 AM   #283
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I hope we don't loose the pods and gills, but if you look at each new generation, the interior was quite different.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:10 AM   #284
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I think they still incorporate the quad gauge cluster (fingers crossed) but in a sleeker, more modern way.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:00 PM   #285
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But….I love the 4 gauge pod thingy….It's another small thing that I will miss a lot. Just like the "gills" on the sides.
I don't even remember the last time I looked at those gauges.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:02 PM   #286
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I don't even remember the last time I looked at those gauges.
Really? I glance down for oil temp and pressure all the time.

I do...however...wish all that information was readily available on the dash...ala C7 digi-display.....pleeeeeaaaasee Chevy???
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Old 04-11-2015, 07:19 PM   #287
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Bump: Like many others, I just want all the specs out there(and for the ATS-V), ending a bit of speculation and beginning more, like the real performance numbers on track.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:52 PM   #288
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Okay y'all are probably gonna call me crazy, but I have a theory on the 200+ lbs weight loss claim by GM. Ready?

The 200 or more pounds lost is referring not from one single 5th gen vehicle to one single 6th gen vehicle - it means the entire 6th gen lineup lost 200(+) pounds when compared to the equivalent 5th gen lineup. Heres how I got there.

Official statement by GM: "The 2016 Chevrolet Camaro features an aluminum beam to support the instrument panel, which is 9.7 lbs. (4.4 kg) lighter than the previous steel beam. Changes like this help reduce total curb weight for the new Camaro by more than 200 pounds."

The key word I focused on is "total" curb weight. Why would they say this? "Total" as opposed to what? Partial curb weight, or double curb weight? There's no such thing, there is simply the curb weight. With that in mind I interpret their words to mean that they added the curb weights of the cars throughout the lineup, at least where there is a known equivalent. Let's keep going.

1. Claim that there is a loss of at least 200 lbs. How do we get to this? Compare the premium trims:
(Heaviest 5th gen V8 trim + heaviest 5th gen V6 trim) minus (Heaviest 6th gen V8 trim + heaviest 6th gen V6 trim) = 200 lbs difference

2. Claim of more than 200 lbs weight loss? Simple, this is comparing the base models.
(Lightest 5th gen V8 trim + lightest 5th gen V6 trim) minus (lightest 6th gen V8 trim + lightest 6th gen V6 trim) = 200+ lbs difference. Makes sense as base models are typically less heavy than premium trims.

Further, this theory explains some other issues that arose from a 200 pound single-vehicle difference theory.

Per the chevy website, the curb weight for a 1SS is listed as 3908 lbs. The ATS-V is reported to be 3700 or so lbs. If we take the 200 directly from the 3908, that puts us right at the weight of an ATS-V. Now, Mr. Pill may say some crazy things now and then, but I think he is correct and we can all agree that this is not compatible. Why? Well we know for certain that 1) the 6th gen camaro will gain some physical size over the ATS platform, and 2) the addition of the V8 power train / drive train is going to add mass and reinforcements that are not present on the ATS-V or any other model. BOTH of these factors are going to add weight, and so there is simply no way that the 1SS could weigh in at 3700.

BUT, if the 1SS was to lose say, 75 lbs, and the base V6 model was to lose 125 lbs (or some other combination, heck even 100/100), well now that is certainly much more realistic and plausible. And there is the 200 pounds we're looking for.

Keep in mind that these comparisons do not include the ZL1, Z28, or convertibles, because I'm pretty sure GM isn't including these in their figures.

In summary, this whole thing turns on my interpretation of the "total" modifier of curb weight. It's wild, but everything fits into place properly with this interpretation.

Of course this is just speculation I could be wrong.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:53 PM   #289
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I remember reading that.. It's the most absurd sounding thing I've ever read.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:01 PM   #290
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:23 PM   #291
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I've never read something that made so little sense.

But I guess after getting whooped in performance from every angle for the past 5 years; the prospect of dealing with it all over again, but with 200+ less pounds would make me nervous too, if I were a Mustang loyalist...good thing I'm not.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:33 PM   #292
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This has desperation and denial written all over it.

For the Mustang6g guys who are undoubtedly lurking, you guys already have great cars, no denying that. But making up stuff like this just makes it sound like you have zero confidence in them.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:45 PM   #293
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Guess he thinks GM is going to make the same mistake Ford did with the new Mustang. Over promise and under deliver.
I would rather see under promise and over deliver myself.
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:01 PM   #294
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Ever watch the detective shows where the murdering husband has finally been broken and comes up with some elaborate story how his wife fell down 10 times on the kitchen knife set.

yeah...ok buddy - you're under arrest.

Nice try with that one on the 200lbs - he did put a lot of effort into the post though...i guess
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