[JoeAyalaM]

I won't do Meth again, it is not for a DD, too much throuble, not worth it if you are not in the track or strip.

[LibertyHill]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Here is a great write up of a car with methanol and what it can do to some metals. I am not trying to scare anybody, just trying to inform. SGDM is also trying to give as much info as he can to help the topic

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319342

Thanks Andy.

[sub_ETCS_ret]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

I won't do Meth again, it is not for a DD, too much throuble, not worth it if you are not in the track or strip.

This is my belief too.

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[Perdieu]

I ran a SMC kit on a my Turbo GTO for 4 years 35K miles and over 500 1/4 mile passes with out any issues. I treated it just like my fuel system, inspected it each winter and flushed while sitting.

[ProCharger]

Been tuning cars on Meth kits for about 15 years...

Literally since the "golden age" of the systems coming out...
All sorts of different brands.

I have seen little to no failures with a properly installed meth system.
The very few failures I have seen have been pretty simple.

1) Install error (poor wiring, pinched vauum lines, leaks, etc)
2) Customer/Owner running the car out of Meth.


Honestly, Id trust a nice meth system....
WAY more then I trust the quality of pump gas from station to station!

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Here is a great write up of a car with methanol and what it can do to some metals. I am not tryig to scare anybody, just trying to inform. SGDM is also trying to give as much info as he can to help the topic

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319342

Ok. I apologize for showing these pics and this link.

[SGDM]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Here is a great write up of a car with methanol and what it can do to some metals. I am not tryig to scare anybody, just trying to inform. SGDM is also trying to give as much info as he can to help the topic

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319342

Thanks ADM, very informative.

[1LE801]

Originally Posted by ProCharger

Been tuning cars on Meth kits for about 15 years...

Literally since the "golden age" of the systems coming out...
All sorts of different brands.

I have seen little to no failures with a properly installed meth system.
The very few failures I have seen have been pretty simple.

1) Install error (poor wiring, pinched vauum lines, leaks, etc)
2) Customer/Owner running the car out of Meth.


Honestly, Id trust a nice meth system....
WAY more then I trust the quality of pump gas from station to station!

I was wondering when someone else would advocate the use of Meth. I too know of many, many cars running the Alky Control kits. No issues to speak of. From what I can gather, I may have to rebuild a pump after a few years. $80-90 bucks. Not sure how everyone is thinking this is even remotely difficult to have of your car.

Also, I'm with you. Pump gas can NOT be trusted making the use of Meth a safe guard against that also. It's all good I guess. More Meth for those of us in the know

[JoeAyalaM]

I agree that Meth can be good as a band aid for the fuel system, and/or track-strip use. But it is not for an all around car, Meth is consumed very fast if you drive long trips at high speeds and refilling on the road, is not easy. So to each his own, I want to keep the Grand Touring Capability in my Camaro.

[LibertyHill]

Originally Posted by SGDM

Thanks ADM, very informative.

I agree. Thumbs down was for the effects of the meth on that steel pipe.

[Atomic Ed]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

I agree that Meth can be good as a band aid for the fuel system, and/or track-strip use. But it is not for an all around car, Meth is consumed very fast if you drive long trips at high speeds and refilling on the road, is not easy. So to each his own, I want to keep the Grand Touring Capability in my Camaro.

I'll chime in with Joe on this and found the same to be true on my Audi. While it's a proven power adder, it's a PITA for a daily driver, particularly if you want to take it out on the road for long trips.

I went through two pumps in 18 months. I could never let my S.O. drive it in that she would always forget to check the Meth level. Ask yourself if you are going to feel the same way about adding Meth after 50k miles?

Finally took it off the Audi and dialed back the tune. I thought about keeping it on the car and just running distilled water, but figured that would still be a pain in the wazoo.

I'm using my Gen6 as a pleasure/grand touring toy and want to keep it simple to use, hence, no Meth for me.

[Perdieu]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Ok. I apologize for showing these pics and this link.

No need to apologize, everyone needs to hear both sides of the argument.
I never run a meth nozzle in any thing but aluminum

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

I agree that Meth can be good as a band aid for the fuel system, and/or track-strip use. But it is not for an all around car, Meth is consumed very fast if you drive long trips at high speeds and refilling on the road, is not easy. So to each his own, I want to keep the Grand Touring Capability in my Camaro.

I don't paly video games so I'm lost on what Grand Touring Capability is that a term form GTA or Need4Speed ???

I guess by your definition my last build was a piece of shit with a band aid set up LMFAO

Drove it to work daily,
Did half mile and mile events,
Raced in two different drag racing organizations,
Fuel system could have supported 2000 hp, Meth was used as a cooling agent, came in at 5 psi and fully in at 10 2 gallon tank that never ran out no matter what kind of playing around I did.

Walk around video the day before I sold it

[Perdieu]

Originally Posted by Atomic Ed

I'll chime in with Joe on this and found the same to be true on my Audi. While it's a proven power adder, it's a PITA for a daily driver, particularly if you want to take it out on the road for long trips.

I went through two pumps in 18 months. I could never let my S.O. drive it in that she would always forget to check the Meth level. Ask yourself if you are going to feel the same way about adding Meth after 50k miles?

Finally took it off the Audi and dialed back the tune. I thought about keeping it on the car and just running distilled water, but figured that would still be a pain in the wazoo.

I'm using my Gen6 as a pleasure/grand touring toy and want to keep it simple to use, hence, no Meth for me.

That was the first thing I looked for in a system was a warning light when the tank was low.

[ProCharger]

Originally Posted by Atomic Ed

it's a PITA for a daily driver, particularly if you want to take it out on the road for long trips.

How is it a PITA?

I bet I added up all the miles logged of customers of mine running meth on their daily drivers it would be to the term of millions of miles.

The system is only active usually in boost above say 4psi.
So for a car like these Modern camaros, that's WELL into the throttle.

AKA, normal driving (the 95% of everyone's commute) the system is "OFF"


Plus modern cars like these Camaros have "Low Washer Fluid" dash chimes.
So that if you are like me, and use the massive washer tank as a reservoir,
You get the benefit of it being HUGE, as well as a nice dash warning to refill.

I went through two pumps in 18 months.

Sounds like there some major issue there, or junk pumps.
I can say in 15 years I think I have replaced 1 pump for a customer.
(Because it let it sit in storage for a really long time with straight meth, and corrosion happened)

I could never let my S.O. drive it in that she would always forget to check the Meth level.

Easily solved by using the washer fluid tank, which gives a warning.
Or using one of the safety devices that if no meth flow is detected, you can cut spark, etc.

So VERY easy to overcome what you just talked about.

My GF drives all of my stuff, I never hesitate to hand her to keys.
Although some of them she just refused to drive... LOL.

Ask yourself if you are going to feel the same way about adding Meth after 50k miles?

Have a customer running a blower and meth, and has approaching 200k miles on that combo. (Daily driven truck)...

I have personally installed a blower and meth system onto a C5 Corvette that had 273,xxx miles on it. Yes, over a 1/4 million miles before even getting boost, LOL. Funny thing, it laid down EXACTLY the same power numbers that cars do with a fraction of that mileage. (Guess thats a high five to GM, and syntetic oil!)

Finally took it off the Audi and dialed back the tune. I thought about keeping it on the car and just running distilled water, but figured that would still be a pain in the wazoo.

Sounds like you had some bad luck with your system/install/application.
Hate hearing about things like that. (even when it has nothing to do with my product or brand)

However, that has not been the case for anything I have dealty with.
Frankly I see loads more of POS tunes, and Junk fuel, then anything meth related.
(again, outside of install errors, or totally wrong applications)


I am a blower guy, so I feel weird supporting another product so hard.
But frankly I think "meth" systems get a bad wrap,...and most of them come down to install error, or improperly thought out system. I know this, because I fix a LOT of them. (although less as the years have gone by)


I will say this again, while everyone "thinks" D/I motors are amazing for Forced induction... There is a reason why Ford is doing a blend system going forward starting in 2018, with D/I and port injection. (So a meth system is your cheapest way of replicating what they are doing)


Meth for the WIN!

Erik @ ProCharger