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Old 11-06-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
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Maybe someone can answer this question for me

So the upcoming Corvette C8 with its Z51 performance package can go 0-60 in 2.9 secs and quarter mile in 11.2 secs. Wheeras the ZL1 without the 1LE does 0-60 in 3.5 secs and quarter mile in 11.4 secs.


So the C8 is the "better" car yet its 5-10k CHEAPER than the ZL1. How does that make sense?
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:20 PM   #2
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1/4 mile times alone does not dictate a "better car". Especially since the base C8 costs about the same as a base ZL1 costs, and the ZL1 would likely smoke it in a roll race (which is 99% of what people do anyways). Plus there is also other aspects of it such as handling and braking and what not. Keep in mind, you can spec a C8 to over $100k with options, and that's not even a Z06.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:30 PM   #3
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Where are you coming up with $5-10k cheaper?
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:41 PM   #4
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1/4 mile times alone does not dictate a "better car". Especially since the base C8 costs about the same as a base ZL1 costs, and the ZL1 would likely smoke it in a roll race (which is 99% of what people do anyways). Plus there is also other aspects of it such as handling and braking and what not. Keep in mind, you can spec a C8 to over $100k with options, and that's not even a Z06.



Well yeah I know it doesn't dictate the better car which is why I used quotes, those numbers would indicate that the C8 isnt even a full second faster in either metric, there are plenty of ways to make up for that. I just wanna insure when I get my ZL1 its the fastest car on the streets (yes I know there are MUCH faster cars (Demon, Redeye, Lamborghini just to name a few) but you'll also rarely even encounter said cars on the road (Ive never seen a Lamborghini outside of tv or a car show yet). So youd still be faster than 90% of the stuff you come across, and the other 10% well youd be lucky if you ran into three of them a year.


Btw I remember a rumor a few months about the Camaro being discontinued again, has that been proven to be true (or false)?
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:59 PM   #5
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Where are you coming up with $5-10k cheaper?

Here:


Corvette $59,999 + $5000 with Z51 package


ZL1 2020 ZL1 (non 1LE) Automatic Convertible $72,190 ($73,200 with other features added). Even if we went with Manual Coupe is $64,195 and that not counting adding other features
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:23 PM   #6
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So the upcoming Corvette C8 with its Z51 performance package can go 0-60 in 2.9 secs and quarter mile in 11.2 secs. Wheeras the ZL1 without the 1LE does 0-60 in 3.5 secs and quarter mile in 11.4 secs.


So the C8 is the "better" car yet its 5-10k CHEAPER than the ZL1. How does that make sense?




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Old 11-06-2019, 09:24 PM   #7
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The ZL1 and ZLE are the top tier Camaros. So there will be some Vettes that they will cost more than especially in Base trim. However once you add in all the options to the C8 that are standard on the ZL1 then you will see a higher price. Example, heated and cooled seats are standard on the ZL1. To get them on the Base Vette you have to step up to the 2LT trim. That alone puts the C8 above the price of the ZL1 and right at the doorsteps of the ZLE. Add the Z51 to the 2LT and you're above the price of any Camaro. So when optioned similarly the C8 is more expensive.

The C8 performance-wise is basically just about as capable as the ZL1 and ZLE. But technically the Corvette is the flagship performance car. So it can be argued that it is better. Especially the C8. However like I said, when optioned identically the Vette is more expensive.
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:31 PM   #8
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The ZL1 and ZLE are the top tier Camaros. So there will be some Vettes that they will cost more than especially in Base trim. However once you add in all the options to the C8 that are standard on the ZL1 then you will see a higher price. Example, heated and cooled seats are standard on the ZL1. To get them on the Base Vette you have to step up to the 2LT trim. That alone puts the C8 above the price of the ZL1 and right at the doorsteps of the ZLE. Add the Z51 to the 2LT and you're above the price of any Camaro. So when optioned similarly the C8 is more expensive.

The C8 performance-wise is basically just about as capable as the ZL1 and ZLE. But technically the Corvette is the flagship performance car. So it can be argued that it is better. Especially the C8. However like I said, when optioned identically the Vette is more expensive.





speaking of ZL1 standard features what about heated steering wheel, heads up display, rear park assist, backup cam, backup traffic alert, blind spot sensors and lane change alert/sensors? Those are standard on a 2LT camaro with RS package lol. Does a ZL1 come standard with that as well?
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:47 PM   #9
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So the upcoming Corvette C8 with its Z51 performance package can go 0-60 in 2.9 secs and quarter mile in 11.2 secs. Wheeras the ZL1 without the 1LE does 0-60 in 3.5 secs and quarter mile in 11.4 secs.


So the C8 is the "better" car yet its 5-10k CHEAPER than the ZL1. How does that make sense?
It is not, nor has it ever been the same buyer. Some of us need a back seat. Some of us like the bolt on potential of a factory supercharged car. You can pick up a new 2019 ZL1 1le in the low 60s, or wait until 2020+ for a c8 and pay adm for an early car. Neither of which is better, it is more what fills your needs and wants.
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:48 PM   #10
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speaking of ZL1 standard features what about heated steering wheel, heads up display, rear park assist, backup cam, backup traffic alert, blind spot sensors and lane change alert/sensors? Those are standard on a 2LT camaro with RS package lol. Does a ZL1 come standard with that as well?
Yes.

Maybe do a little research?
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:24 PM   #11
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Yes.

Maybe do a little research?

I did do research. I asked a question and got an answer. Believe it or not thats a form of research. Look it up
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:23 PM   #12
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speaking of ZL1 standard features what about heated steering wheel, heads up display, rear park assist, backup cam, backup traffic alert, blind spot sensors and lane change alert/sensors? Those are standard on a 2LT camaro with RS package lol. Does a ZL1 come standard with that as well?
I'm not familiar with what comes on a 2LT Camaro. Backup cameras are required on all cars now. ZL1s do come standard with heated steering wheel, HUD, etc. Basically, whatever you can option in on the lower trims start becoming standard once you get into the higher trims. Typically each trim can be optioned to be more expensive than the next trim. Which is why a 2LT RS can be more expensive than a SS.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:23 PM   #13
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speaking of ZL1 standard features what about heated steering wheel, heads up display, rear park assist, backup cam, backup traffic alert, blind spot sensors and lane change alert/sensors? Those are standard on a 2LT camaro with RS package lol. Does a ZL1 come standard with that as well?
The ZL1 has everything, all other models are just partial "renderings" on the 6th gen "canvas". It even has shift lights in the HUD that neither your 2LT nor my 2SS does, for example (only in 1LE trims).
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:22 AM   #14
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speaking of ZL1 standard features what about heated steering wheel, heads up display, rear park assist, backup cam, backup traffic alert, blind spot sensors and lane change alert/sensors? Those are standard on a 2LT camaro with RS package lol. Does a ZL1 come standard with that as well?
I have a 2017 2LT RS and all those options you list come with the Lighting and Convenience Package, which my car does NOT have. The RS package gives you different wheels, external lights and some cosmetic changes, but not the options you list.

According to the Chevy build and price site, newer cars with the 3LT trim level come with the Lighting and Convenience Package, but it is not available on lower trims.
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