03-07-2021, 11:02 AM | #1 |
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Which headers to get or even get them.
Which headers to get or even get them.
Ok, doing the cam install soon. Which headers should I get or even get them. I installed Kooks headers 1 7/8 LT last time on my 2016. This time I am not sure what route to go but ready to order and pay. 1.) I was thinking of the Jet Hot kooks 1 7/8 or 2 inch? $1300 ish 2.) Texas Speed Performance Headers 700 ish 3.) Speed Engineering Headers. $370 ish The range in price is from around $1300 to a low of $370. Of course there must be some consideration of quality of build. But is it like buying a Nike runner compared to a lesser shoe that still does the job. Plus the ceramic coating is it worth the extra money to go with them vrs the TSP Headers? I do want a cooler engine bay but the Nitrous does that internally. Hmmm I am not 100 % sure yet which route to go.
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03-07-2021, 12:11 PM | #2 |
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Depending on the specs of your cam, most cams will benefit from the better breathing provided by LTs. Typically a cam will move your power band to higher rpm levels and that is where you want better, more efficient exhaust flow/and less back pressure. Kooks and ARH are typically at the top in terms of quality of the metal, welds and fit. I would highly recommend having them coated. Also, invest in some plug wire sleeves for additional protection from heat breakdown and burnt wires.
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03-07-2021, 01:01 PM | #3 | |
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After headers the next purchase is the GPI drop in pistons at the end of this month. So I am just about finished collecting all parts, gaskets, oils, fluids, etc. I guess I will give Texas Speed a call tomorrow to see which headers they recommend 1 7/8 or 2 inch with my build.
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03-07-2021, 04:36 PM | #4 |
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Don't get the Jet Hot Kooks. They're made from crappier quality steel than the uncoated ones.
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03-07-2021, 11:21 PM | #5 |
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The jet hot ones are 409 stainless instead of 304. If you get them coated it really won’t make a difference. I bought my catted TSP headers NIB from another member for 700$ had them coated locally for 250$ . My vote is for the TSP headers.
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https://help.summitracing.com/app/an...nless-steel%3F
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03-08-2021, 04:20 AM | #7 |
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Thanks for info, leaning to TSP now.
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03-08-2021, 05:09 AM | #8 |
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camshaft? yes, install headers.
about a year ago i went with 2" speed engineering headers. no complaints. fwiw i've NEVER seen a ceramic coated header hold its coating. ever. this goes for tsp, flowmaster, pacesetter, kooks, thorley, banks...not one of them. be it factory coating or jet hot, doesn't matter.
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03-08-2021, 05:50 AM | #9 |
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go 2" headers. some will say you don't need them until like 700+but there is no negative side to running 2" over the 1-7/8 plus if you do more mods you already got the bigger headers. I know of someone who actually customized bigger then 2" headers and seen 22 rwhp difference on a 416 NA motor. TSP is best bang for your buck. i got my headers non-catted new for 650 and had them locally ceramic coated for like 150 bucks. fitment was good and no issues in 2 years use.
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03-08-2021, 06:16 AM | #10 |
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Coatings are trash.... especially jet hot. My jet hot hooker headers lost their voting after a year
2" headers, 10 times out if 10. 1 7/8 longtube headers belong no where near a 6th gen
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03-08-2021, 09:47 AM | #11 |
I have had two sets of Hedman Elite headers ceramic coated on two different BBC engines.
The oldest set is now seven years old and the coating on both looks as new. I will never have a set of headers without ceramic coating. My 2 cents. |
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03-08-2021, 10:56 AM | #12 |
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I would probably go with AirBorne coatings. From what I understand this is the guy who started Jet Hot and sold the business to some other company. He started this business after selling Jet Hot.
Of course please confirm all of that if/when you talk with them. |
03-08-2021, 11:19 AM | #13 |
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Anyone no if that heat ceramic paint actually helps with the heat when you spray your headers with a rattle can.
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03-08-2021, 01:05 PM | #14 |
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If you’re not installing the headers yourself, why the Texas Speed Performance Headers over the budget Speed Engineering Headers?
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