[Sven59]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

looks great op, but it looks like it would be more of a hot air intake. those lt4's radiate a ton of heat, and that intake has no lid.

The hood.

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[Artos]

lol...

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

Its NOT nonsense when you get a warranty problem...:(

Not all of us have friendly dealers, I have to swap to OEM if the car goes to the dealer. I have 3 dealers within 20 miles, all 3 are dicks..:(

Originally Posted by ninetres

Nonsense isn't a very good descriptor. It's just a data point that's not important to some (you, others).....and is important to some (me, others). This post wasn't meant to claim any sort of superiority, just to share my experience and thoughts on the product.

I wouldn't even consider yanking a plastic fitting out of the stock until with metal pliers....let alone destroying the clamp. But that's just my preference. Yours may vary.

Most of us know our way around a car or at the very least do some work on our own car. And a clamp is not worth even talking about. Ok so you gotta go in for warranty...go to an auto parts store, but a standard clamp, and you're all set. Heck, get a pack of them for $3.95 and knock yourself out. If the dealership is THAT concerned when they see the pressed on clamp is missing, then come up with something. It isn't that hard..."Oh I was driving and it must've came off somehow so I just replaced it with a standard clamp". That is IF they're even that anal to check for it and even IF they're that much more anal that they would even know the dang thing is missing. And trust me, they aren't gonna void your warranty over a clamp anyway. I mean, I'm not trying to diss you guys but come on. It's a clamp. I could solve that issue faster than I can download porn and down a 6 pack of beer.

[ninetres]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Most of us know our way around a car or at the very least do some work on our own car. And a clamp is not worth even talking about. Ok so you gotta go in for warranty...go to an auto parts store, but a standard clamp, and you're all set. Heck, get a pack of them for $3.95 and knock yourself out. If the dealership is THAT concerned when they see the pressed on clamp is missing, then come up with something. It isn't that hard..."Oh I was driving and it must've came off somehow so I just replaced it with a standard clamp". That is IF they're even that anal to check for it and even IF they're that much more anal that they would even know the dang thing is missing. And trust me, they aren't gonna void your warranty over a clamp anyway. I mean, I'm not trying to diss you guys but come on. It's a clamp. I could solve that issue faster than I can download porn and down a 6 pack of beer.

I'm very capable of buying a small hose clamp and installing it, I'll spare you the accolades my time attack C5, and half mile camaro have earned in the international scene. Other than welding I built both cars. I am too OCD about my new, expensive (to me) car. I prefer to be able to put the stock intake on in its entirety stock form. No big deal at all if you and others don't understand.

All this being said an intake that offers a replacement fitting so you don't have to mess with the stock one is a definite benefit. If Rotofab offered one for free as an option.....every single buyer would select it. That's all I'm saying.

[bobby35ny]

Originally Posted by ninetres

I'm very capable of buying a small hose clamp and installing it, I'll spare you the accolades my time attack C5, and half mile camaro have earned in the international scene. Other than welding I built both cars. I am too OCD about my new, expensive (to me) car. I prefer to be able to put the stock intake on in its entirety stock form. No big deal at all if you and others don't understand.

All this being said an intake that offers a replacement fitting so you don't have to mess with the stock one is a definite benefit. If Rotofab offered one for free as an option.....every single buyer would select it. That's all I'm saying.

+1

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by ninetres

I'm very capable of buying a small hose clamp and installing it, I'll spare you the accolades my time attack C5, and half mile camaro have earned in the international scene. Other than welding I built both cars. I am too OCD about my new, expensive (to me) car. I prefer to be able to put the stock intake on in its entirety stock form. No big deal at all if you and others don't understand.

All this being said an intake that offers a replacement fitting so you don't have to mess with the stock one is a definite benefit. If Rotofab offered one for free as an option.....every single buyer would select it. That's all I'm saying.

You did all that and are on the international scene yet a clamp is such a big issue? Lol, cool story bro. Get a $4 pack of dang clamps and call it a day.

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

I have the clamp and the tool. It's the principal!!

It's not a $199 ebay kit. its a $450 top of the line product, How people think this is OK and make excuses for Roto Fab simply blows my mind.

not blowing smoke, proof I have the kit

+1

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by VAZL1

661.00 for a CAI, wow!! Don't get me wrong to each his own, looks good on your car but that price is total BS.

+1 to this as well. It's a CF tube, some rubber sleeves and worm clamps, and a filter... The profit margin on these things must be upward of 90%!

Full faith, I did buy a Mamo TB - half the price and a whole lot more work involved. I think I'm going to try just replacing the stock filter with a K&N to see what happens as I'm not sure that the whole CAI is worth $661.

[ninetres]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You did all that and are on the international scene yet a clamp is such a big issue? Lol, cool story bro. Get a $4 pack of dang clamps and call it a day.

Held the camaro and RWD 1/2 mile world record for several years at 198.9mph. My car still still holds the camaro record with its new owner in Qatar at 219mph. It IS a cool story.....if you're into camaro slapped world records.

Different car though. It's a race car. I bought the ZL1 with intentions of easily putting it back to 100% stock. Selling a 100% stock umolested car fetches more money (when that day comes). Buying a different brand intake, swapping fittings, and buying additional matching OEM looking clamps is more time and money.

I changed my mind. If other brands offered free fittings and clamps.....YOU would apparently not opt for them, and would prefer using a shitty "$4" worm drive clamp instead. Bravo.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

+1 to this as well. It's a CF tube, some rubber sleeves and worm clamps, and a filter... The profit margin on these things must be upward of 90%!

Full faith, I did buy a Mamo TB - half the price and a whole lot more work involved. I think I'm going to try just replacing the stock filter with a K&N to see what happens as I'm not sure that the whole CAI is worth $661.

Price any real CF, it is the reason it is priced that high.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by ninetres

Held the camaro and RWD 1/2 mile world record for several years at 198.9mph. My car still still holds the camaro record with its new owner in Qatar at 219mph. It IS a cool story.....if you're into camaro slapped world records.

Different car though. It's a race car. I bought the ZL1 with intentions of easily putting it back to 100% stock. Selling a 100% stock umolested car fetches more money (when that day comes). Buying a different brand intake, swapping fittings, and buying additional matching OEM looking clamps is more time and money.

I changed my mind. If other brands offered free fittings and clamps.....YOU would apparently not opt for them, and would prefer using a shitty "$4" worm drive clamp instead. Bravo.

I would not pick a K&N over a Roto-Fab regardless of carbon fiber and even if they did offer a clamp with it and it was all at the same price. I'm not brand loyal, I just feel that the RF is a much better made product and has a better seal. And I have no objection with getting a clamp. It isn't a big deal. They aren't "shitty"...people have been using them for decades. They do a job and that is all that matters. In fact I prefer them over the pressed clamps anyway because they can be reused over and over again. Break one and you just go to the store and buy another one. The only purpose those pressed clamps serve is to piss people off anyway.

[Fast Dalmation]

Guys, this is not 20 years ago when OEM intake were a joke. I am sure the OEM version on the ZL1 is pretty darn good. The fact they did not alter it for the ZL1 1LE with all the testing they did would logically confirm that. These cars are pretty amazing out of the box, hence why we all paid all over $60K.

After talking Tony, I am convinced that going with the ported TB and maybe a larger filter is the perfect balance for me.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Fast Dalmation

Guys, this is not 20 years ago when OEM intake were a joke. I am sure the OEM version on the ZL1 is pretty darn good. The fact they did not alter it for the ZL1 1LE with all the testing they did would logically confirm that. These cars are pretty amazing out of the box, hence why we all paid all over $60K.

After talking Tony, I am convinced that going with the ported TB and maybe a larger filter is the perfect balance for me.

I do think that these days the stock systems are pretty good. But I also think they do leave a little on the table. And in any case, a lot of us have plans for more extensive mods in the future. In which case an aftermarket system will definitely have an advantage. Plus even if not, it is still customization. Some of us will never be happy driving a car out the box the way it is from the factory. I personally enjoy doing mods to make it more personalized to me instead of driving the same thing that any other person with a ZL1 is driving. RF is about $400. And that isn't gonna make or break me. But it will add enjoyment to my drive!

[BMWM.D.]

While I agree that a $480 intake should include that fitting, it's not difficult to buy a replacement clamp. It's a 15.7 mm oetiker clamp. I found a pack of 25 for like $8. Bmw uses these things all over the place, so I deal with them all the time. I bet I have one that is really close sitting in my toolbox right now. And for what it's worth, you don't need a special tool to crimp them. A pair of cv boot pliars will work, or even a pair of diagonal cutters will do the trick.

I totally get the desire to keep everything completely stock looking. An experienced Technician WILL notice something like that (i.e. a worm clamp where a crimp style should be). And it might make them take a closer look at other things. Just my thought from being in this business for the last 17 years.