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Old 12-08-2015, 04:50 PM   #43
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With how aggressive the transmission 1st gear is...a stall might actually *slow* the car down...

Total drivetrain tune? That's gonna be some good stuff.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:58 PM   #44
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I don't know, if it can get grip with DR's a stall should not hurt as far as I can figure. Also, taller tires could end up lowering the ratio in some cars. A stall may not be a mod I go for, but I could see an argument for it.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:04 PM   #45
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Some 5th gen 1LEs dynoed right around 400 +- depending on the dyno. Dynos do not mean much unless you compare runs on the same day, same car, same dyno. But still cool to see one of the first.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429651

Manual 5th gens can be compared to manual Ca6 SSes. So a little more power and a 200 pound loss means about .5 second ET improvement. Most of that comes from the weight loss.

The best LS3 5th gen stock run (and a hero run at that) is 12.588. Will we see a CA6 SS manual in the 11s stock? That would be cool. Comparing auto 8s is not a fair comparison for the M6es. They should more easily hit the 11s. We shall see. The CA6 SS is a fast car. Nice to see they no longer fear 5.0s or 392 Mopars. The tables have turned.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:54 PM   #46
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Some 5th gen 1LEs dynoed right around 400 +- depending on the dyno. Dynos do not mean much unless you compare runs on the same day, same car, same dyno. But still cool to see one of the first.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429651

Manual 5th gens can be compared to manual Ca6 SSes. So a little more power and a 200 pound loss means about .5 second ET improvement. Most of that comes from the weight loss.

The best LS3 5th gen stock run (and a hero run at that) is 12.588. Will we see a CA6 SS manual in the 11s stock? That would be cool. Comparing auto 8s is not a fair comparison for the M6es. They should more easily hit the 11s. We shall see. The CA6 SS is a fast car. Nice to see they no longer fear 5.0s or 392 Mopars. The tables have turned.
My 14 1LE made 368 RWHP stock. These 6th Gens are going to be spanking fairly modded 5th gens out of the box. Can't wait to get my hands on one

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Old 12-08-2015, 06:02 PM   #47
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Oh boy. Tune, stall, and trans tune with DRs maybe 11.5.....
Way, way faster then that. My '11 GT runs that with a mild converter, tune, muffler swap, basic suspension mods and drag radials. Weighs 4000 pounds with me in it. Those mods on a gen 6, I would say very low 11's...
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:22 PM   #48
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No sir it is in fact, STP Standard Temperature and Pressure.


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Well I guess STP is essentially the same correction as STD.
Why would you post the STP/STD numbers and not SAE? Even GM uses SAE.

Seems like its only a way to post a higher number.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:45 PM   #49
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They tuned one up here and got 30hp and 40tq gains all the way across.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:00 PM   #50
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They tuned one up here and got 30hp and 40tq gains all the way across.
On just a tune?
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:02 PM   #51
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Way, way faster then that. My '11 GT runs that with a mild converter, tune, muffler swap, basic suspension mods and drag radials. Weighs 4000 pounds with me in it. Those mods on a gen 6, I would say very low 11's...
We live in crazy times people......these American Car Manufacturers are killing everyone right now, especially in terms of bang for your buck! Enjoy it while it lasts haha.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:12 AM   #52
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Well I guess STP is essentially the same correction as STD.
Why would you post the STP/STD numbers and not SAE? Even GM uses SAE.

Seems like its only a way to post a higher number.
There are a multitude of Correction factors across the globe.

A correction factor only exists to give a standard day for your Region, so when you test in the winter or test in the summer you get the same numbers.

Superflow has been the go to Dyno testing equipment for all forms or racing for over 30 years and has established STP as correct for the US North America.

We Measure Actual numbers with a Torque sensing strain gauge then correct for the Day.

Our actual number and corrected number are within 1% on the day I ran the test, I don't consider 1% an inflated number.

If anything SAE is overly conservative showing Low numbers compared to Actual measured HP and TQ.

STP is backed up by Track results time and time again, I have collected data from this dyno and backed them up at the track for over 13 years now.

STP numbers are as REAL world as it gets.

Many Dynojets read 10% too high regardless of what correction factor they apply.

This is why you see so many high dyno numbers with Low MPH at the track.

I am also collecting Air flow data that also backs up our Dyno numbers, 1 lb of air per minute produces 10 crank HP.

This car is flowing 46.65 lbs of air per minute, X 10 = 466.5 crank hp.

It is also pulling a vacuum above 4000 rpm so a CAI Cold air kit is going to add some power for sure.

Anything else I can answer for you feel free.

Thank you for asking many people want to know.

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Old 12-09-2015, 09:34 AM   #53
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My first car was 40 HP..LOL
Awesome power this SS.
Did you see the torque with 400 at the wheels from around 2200???
You can pull a tank out of ditch with this sucker!!!
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Old 12-09-2015, 02:38 PM   #54
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My first car was 40 HP..LOL
Awesome power this SS.
Did you see the torque with 400 at the wheels from around 2200???
You can pull a tank out of ditch with this sucker!!!
Yes sir, 400 LB.FT at 2600 rpm.

Feels like a Diesel.

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Old 12-09-2015, 03:39 PM   #55
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:52 PM   #56
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There are a multitude of Correction factors across the globe.

A correction factor only exists to give a standard day for your Region, so when you test in the winter or test in the summer you get the same numbers.

Superflow has been the go to Dyno testing equipment for all forms or racing for over 30 years and has established STP as correct for the US North America.

We Measure Actual numbers with a Torque sensing strain gauge then correct for the Day.

Our actual number and corrected number are within 1% on the day I ran the test, I don't consider 1% an inflated number.

If anything SAE is overly conservative showing Low numbers compared to Actual measured HP and TQ.

STP is backed up by Track results time and time again, I have collected data from this dyno and backed them up at the track for over 13 years now.

STP numbers are as REAL world as it gets.

Many Dynojets read 10% too high regardless of what correction factor they apply.

This is why you see so many high dyno numbers with Low MPH at the track.

I am also collecting Air flow data that also backs up our Dyno numbers, 1 lb of air per minute produces 10 crank HP.

This car is flowing 46.65 lbs of air per minute, X 10 = 466.5 crank hp.

It is also pulling a vacuum above 4000 rpm so a CAI Cold air kit is going to add some power for sure.

Anything else I can answer for you feel free.

Thank you for asking many people want to know.

Ted.
I know on the SAE document, they didn't actually test the SS engine, but used the info from the Vette. So I wonder if the tri-y headers give the SS LT1 a nice boost.
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