BMW owner looking at a ZL1 - reposting in the correct forum!

Mr Carrots · 05-21-2018, 03:37 PM

I'm looking at selling my almost-new BMW as their latest B58 engine is a massive PITA and proving to be incredibly mod hostile

I'm debating between a M4 and 2018 A10 Zl1 to replace it, the M4 would have to be modded immediately and flash tuned to get over 500 whp, which is a problem on a 65k+ new car.

The ZL1 on the other hand looks like it produces the kind of power I want, stock.

To get the kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers I've seen quoted, can you just stamp on the accelerator and go? I am utterly sick of having to launch or brake boost turbo cars and want something that I can just go WOT and hit big numbers.

In terms of basic mods, is there anything can be done to the ZL1 without voiding the warranty that would potentially make it a 10 second car? (obviously apart from tires, lol)

Thanks!

LETHAL2SS · 05-21-2018, 04:17 PM

It really sounds like for what you are looking for, the ZL1 is it. instant power, high hp out of the box, doesnt hate modification like any BMW seems to...

JB'sZL1 · 05-21-2018, 04:20 PM

Firstly, you're better off posting this in the Gen 6 forum.

Dave has done 10.99 bone stock. Know that Dave knows what he's doing when stomping the skinny pedal. Many other have done done mid 11's bone stock.

Mr Carrots · 05-21-2018, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB'sZL1

Firstly, you're better off posting this in the Gen 6 forum.

Dave has done 10.99 bone stock. Know that Dave knows what he's doing when stomping the skinny pedal. Many other have done done mid 11's bone stock.

oh crap, I didn't realize this wasnt the Gen6 area. My bad, I'll post it there too

thanks for the replies! Sounds like I'm going to be putting a down payment on a Zl1 as soon as I sell my existing PITA lol

Chevyman2 · 05-21-2018, 04:52 PM

Without voiding warranty NO!

sherob · 05-21-2018, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Carrots

oh crap, I didn't realize this wasnt the Gen6 area. My bad, I'll post it there too

thanks for the replies! Sounds like I'm going to be putting a down payment on a Zl1 as soon as I sell my existing PITA lol

GLWTS, and enjoy the ZL1.

Skyset · 05-21-2018, 04:59 PM

10 seconds? You will definitely have to do upgrades that will void the warranty to reach those numbers.

Lexer98 · 05-21-2018, 06:22 PM

I have the A-10. All I do is hit the gas from a stop and hit 3.6 and 3.7 to 60 without even trying. That's with two people in the car. I know there is more in it too. You will Love the A-10.

Bow Tie Fanatic · 05-21-2018, 07:16 PM

I love the M4 and was considering getting one before I got my ZL1. I will tell you that I ran across one at a road course and not only did the ZL1 seem to out handle it but blew the doors off of it in a straight line. I think both are great looking cars but I am so glad I got the ZL1.

chicagosam · 05-21-2018, 07:25 PM

With my mods, I can hit 3.5s 0-60 utterly brainless by stomping on the pedal with HOT tires.
I have hit a 3.3s once and a few 3.4s with some mental preparation and playing with modulation/brakes/nannies. These numbers are based on the dashboard timer.

Haven't been down the 1/4 yet. Hope this helps.

BTW it was pure frustration trying to get a repeat 3.3s time- I have given up on it and I actually don't know what I did differently to get it. I consider my car a 3.5s car.

cleoent · 05-21-2018, 07:28 PM

I compared the M3 and SS that i ended up getting. The SS outperforms the M3, so the ZL1 will be in a completely different league.

I came from an E60 M5, i miss the spacious interior and the sound of the V10, but nothing else.

c6vette · 05-21-2018, 08:13 PM

I traded my M4 for for the ZL1 a couple months ago...big improvement!

Dethsupp0rt · 05-21-2018, 08:17 PM

I had a '15 M3 before I got the ZL1. I still miss it in some ways, but I can easily say the ZL1 is a better driving, better riding, and obviously faster car.

Obviously, it's not as comfortable to get in/out of, but once you're in, it's really not bad.

If you want to stick on the smaller side, you know the M2 CS is coming out with the S55 instead of the B58 right?

Badmojo · 05-21-2018, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Carrots

I'm looking at selling my almost-new BMW as their latest B58 engine is a massive PITA and proving to be incredibly mod hostile

I'm debating between a M4 and 2018 A10 Zl1 to replace it, the M4 would have to be modded immediately and flash tuned to get over 500 whp, which is a problem on a 65k+ new car.

The ZL1 on the other hand looks like it produces the kind of power I want, stock.

To get the kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers I've seen quoted, can you just stamp on the accelerator and go? I am utterly sick of having to launch or brake boost turbo cars and want something that I can just go WOT and hit big numbers.

In terms of basic mods, is there anything can be done to the ZL1 without voiding the warranty that would potentially make it a 10 second car? (obviously apart from tires, lol)

Thanks!

This is my bone stock 2018 ZL1:

Quarter Mile 11.2 @ 125

Road Racing

05-21-2018, 03:37 PM	#1
Mr Carrots Drives: Bmw for now Join Date: May 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 35	BMW owner looking at a ZL1 - couple of questions I'm looking at selling my almost-new BMW as their latest B58 engine is a massive PITA and proving to be incredibly mod hostile I'm debating between a M4 and 2018 A10 Zl1 to replace it, the M4 would have to be modded immediately and flash tuned to get over 500 whp, which is a problem on a 65k+ new car. The ZL1 on the other hand looks like it produces the kind of power I want, stock. To get the kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers I've seen quoted, can you just stamp on the accelerator and go? I am utterly sick of having to launch or brake boost turbo cars and want something that I can just go WOT and hit big numbers. In terms of basic mods, is there anything can be done to the ZL1 without voiding the warranty that would potentially make it a 10 second car? (obviously apart from tires, lol) Thanks!

05-21-2018, 04:17 PM	#2
LETHAL2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 413	It really sounds like for what you are looking for, the ZL1 is it. instant power, high hp out of the box, doesnt hate modification like any BMW seems to... __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS-Mods: Nightfury cam, CNC ported LS3 heads, CNC ported TB, Ported Intake, RX Catch Can, MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mantic 9000 Clutch, TSP 1 7/8 headers, catless NPP, BMR trailing arms, MMR Z/28 Reps 20" gloss black. SOLD 2011 Red Jewel Tintcoat 2SS-Mods: Edlebrock E Force S/C w/ 3" pulley swap,Texas Speed roller Boost Cam 227/235, 641"/649", 114 LSA, PRC Ported Heads, Ported TB,ARH 1 7/8 headers, McLeod RST twin disk 1000 hp clutch, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 620whp

05-21-2018, 07:25 PM	#10
chicagosam Drives: 2017 BLACK ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 109	With my mods, I can hit 3.5s 0-60 utterly brainless by stomping on the pedal with HOT tires. I have hit a 3.3s once and a few 3.4s with some mental preparation and playing with modulation/brakes/nannies. These numbers are based on the dashboard timer. Haven't been down the 1/4 yet. Hope this helps. BTW it was pure frustration trying to get a repeat 3.3s time- I have given up on it and I actually don't know what I did differently to get it. I consider my car a 3.5s car. __________________ '17 Mosaic ZL1 Katech TB, Plugs/Wires, Rotofab Oiled,+18% Lower, 2" Headers, Cat Delete, 93 Tune, Mobil 1, IPA FF04, 315/30/20 r888r, 664hp/693tq (93), 702hp/727tq (100 oct)

05-21-2018, 07:28 PM	#11
cleoent Drives: 16' Camaro E-Force SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 836	I compared the M3 and SS that i ended up getting. The SS outperforms the M3, so the ZL1 will be in a completely different league. I came from an E60 M5, i miss the spacious interior and the sound of the V10, but nothing else. __________________ Leo 2016 e-Force 2SS Instagram @cleoent

05-21-2018, 04:20 PM	#3
JB'sZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,259	Firstly, you're better off posting this in the Gen 6 forum. Dave has done 10.99 bone stock. Know that Dave knows what he's doing when stomping the skinny pedal. Many other have done done mid 11's bone stock.

05-21-2018, 04:52 PM	#5
Chevyman2 Drives: 2018 zl1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Caswell County, NC Posts: 599 View My Garage	Without voiding warranty NO!

05-21-2018, 04:59 PM	#7
Skyset Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Coupe Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 358	10 seconds? You will definitely have to do upgrades that will void the warranty to reach those numbers.

05-21-2018, 06:22 PM	#8
Lexer98 Drives: 2017 Zl1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 5 View My Garage	I have the A-10. All I do is hit the gas from a stop and hit 3.6 and 3.7 to 60 without even trying. That's with two people in the car. I know there is more in it too. You will Love the A-10.

05-21-2018, 07:16 PM	#9
Bow Tie Fanatic Drives: 2018 Mosaic Black Metallic ZL1 A10 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: NC Posts: 79	I love the M4 and was considering getting one before I got my ZL1. I will tell you that I ran across one at a road course and not only did the ZL1 seem to out handle it but blew the doors off of it in a straight line. I think both are great looking cars but I am so glad I got the ZL1.

05-21-2018, 08:13 PM	#12
c6vette Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Orlando Posts: 30	I traded my M4 for for the ZL1 a couple months ago...big improvement!

05-21-2018, 08:17 PM	#13
Dethsupp0rt Drives: None Join Date: May 2017 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 462	I had a '15 M3 before I got the ZL1. I still miss it in some ways, but I can easily say the ZL1 is a better driving, better riding, and obviously faster car. Obviously, it's not as comfortable to get in/out of, but once you're in, it's really not bad. If you want to stick on the smaller side, you know the M2 CS is coming out with the S55 instead of the B58 right?

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