[Deadmau5]

Awesome !!! That's what I was hoping !! So Ive got headers griptec 2.3 pulley upper . Kooks 2inch headers , and I guess I'll be purchasing smg flexfuel sensor... So is what you guys saying mean with those mods I can't go above e40. ?

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'm basing that your be doing headers and an intake (personally if your on a budget cut the factory bottom stock box out)

If you don't swap pulleys you should be able to run e85 manage about 610 to 640 depending on the dyno with headers and intake. Some say there is room for a pulley which leads to next statement.

if you change pulleys upper or lower you will be mixing e85 w 93 or possibly supplementing with meth injection..

running upper or lower and or a combination of the 2 will require a cam swap w a 32 - 38% fuel lobe needed to make up for the 30% more fuel required to run full e85 most likely a dsx or a intank pump will be needed as well.

If you do the cam and stay on 93 with pulleys, headers, and intake you should be at 730 to 770 range depending on the dyno. a lot people i have talked to have been happy with those numbers, that level is like 850 in a 5th gen. given the weight and better traction of the 6 gens.

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[EDFHOBBIES]

I just got off the phone w Dave he through in a Possible Lash cap or spacer w the high side pump might be necessary depending on power level as well if.. For some reason every car is a different story not sure if its the car or the tuner has a work around as he explained.

[McBrayer]

Short version:

Kooks 1 7/8" headers, No cats, Borla system, Vengeance Racing low side fuel system, VR flex fuel, VR stage 3 cam w/ 32% fuel lobe, VR CNC ported heads, 9.55" lower, 2.3" upper, Killer Chiller. 792 WHP

E55 is the MAX ethanol that I can run before running out of fuel.

Lingenfelter has a $6400.00 option that would let you run full E85

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product...l#.WwVbHUgvzb0

[Deadmau5]

Originally Posted by McBrayer

Short version:

Kooks 1 7/8" headers, No cats, Borla system, Vengeance Racing low side fuel system, VR flex fuel, VR stage 3 cam w/ 32% fuel lobe, VR CNC ported heads, 9.55" lower, 2.3" upper, Killer Chiller. 792 WHP

E55 is the MAX ethanol that I can run before running out of fuel.

Lingenfelter has a $6400.00 option that would let you run full E85

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product...l#.WwVbHUgvzb0

You seem to be knowledgeable in this category if I decide to do a vengeance racing stage 2 cam. Do I need any other supporting mods ? I'm not trying to be at over 800 I just want to be around 750 and I'm happy . I was told I can buy just the cam and I should be fine on this motor.

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[McBrayer]

Deadmau5,

Is your goal of 750 hp at the crank or back tires? Also, A10 or M6 transmission?

If that is your back tire horse power goal, then you will need most id not all of the mods that i have done.

If your looking to jump up to 750 crank horse power (100 over stock), I would recommend a set of 1 7/8" headers, lower 9.17" pulley and either a cam (including the supporting goodies) or a lower fuel system and flex fuel sensor.

[Deadmau5]

My goal is 650-750 anywhere in between on a10. I’ve got headers 2in, 2.3 griptech pulley , weapon x intake , skid mark flex fuel sensor just laying in the garage.


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[kttxz06]

Don't cheap out. That's all I'll tell you.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by McBrayer

Short version:

Kooks 1 7/8" headers, No cats, Borla system, Vengeance Racing low side fuel system, VR flex fuel, VR stage 3 cam w/ 32% fuel lobe, VR CNC ported heads, 9.55" lower, 2.3" upper, Killer Chiller. 792 WHP

E55 is the MAX ethanol that I can run before running out of fuel.

Lingenfelter has a $6400.00 option that would let you run full E85

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product...l#.WwVbHUgvzb0

Okay, I'm stupid. Is that a catch can up front with the breather filter sitting on top? If it is, where can I get that set up please? If not, what is it and where can I get it? haha

[McBrayer]

Originally Posted by Deadmau5

My goal is 650-750 anywhere in between on a10. I’ve got headers 2in, 2.3 griptech pulley , weapon x intake , skid mark flex fuel sensor just laying in the garage.


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Then I would suggest a good low side fuel system, your flex fuel sensor and a GREAT tuner to set it up properly. You may not be able to run full E85 but you get 95% of the ethanol benefits at 45-55% anyway.

[McBrayer]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Okay, I'm stupid. Is that a catch can up front with the breather filter sitting on top? If it is, where can I get that set up please? If not, what is it and where can I get it? haha

Yes that is a standard Moroso catch can. Vengeance Racing did that when they did my full build. The valve coves have -12 AN fittings welded into them. They are plumbed straight to the catch can and the PCV system has been deleted. All crank case pressure is vented to the atmosphere.

Positives of this setup is that there is no way for ANY oil to get sucked back up into the intake system. Oil in the intake on these DI engines is NOT GOOD.

The only negative is that even with the AC on recirculate, you get some fuel smell in the cabin during boost. I am old school and do not mind.

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by McBrayer

Yes that is a standard Moroso catch can. Vengeance Racing did that when they did my full build. The valve coves have -12 AN fittings welded into them. They are plumbed straight to the catch can and the PCV system has been deleted. All crank case pressure is vented to the atmosphere.

Positives of this setup is that there is no way for ANY oil to get sucked back up into the intake system. Oil in the intake on these DI engines is NOT GOOD.

The only negative is that even with the AC on recirculate, you get some fuel smell in the cabin during boost. I am old school and do not mind.

That doesn't sound good, you need vacuum to draw the vapors from the crank case. Hopefully there is some component of your PCV system that provides vacuum.

[McBrayer]

Originally Posted by Ricco

That doesn't sound good, you need vacuum to draw the vapors from the crank case. Hopefully there is some component of your PCV system that provides vacuum.

Nope, it isn't a problem at all and vacuum isn't required. The only reason it is vacuumed back into the engine is for emission reasons. Burning the vapors in the engine reduced harmful emissions and make the EPA happier.

All engines have blow by, the piston rings do not provide a perfect seal. This means that all engine crankcases run at a slightly positive pressure and must vent somewhere, some how. The blow by is substantially increased when an engine is supercharged, turbocharged or otherwise boosted.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by McBrayer

Yes that is a standard Moroso catch can. Vengeance Racing did that when they did my full build. The valve coves have -12 AN fittings welded into them. They are plumbed straight to the catch can and the PCV system has been deleted. All crank case pressure is vented to the atmosphere.

Positives of this setup is that there is no way for ANY oil to get sucked back up into the intake system. Oil in the intake on these DI engines is NOT GOOD.

The only negative is that even with the AC on recirculate, you get some fuel smell in the cabin during boost. I am old school and do not mind.

Eh, okay. Thanks for chiming in. Don't really care about the use of the catch can itself, just looked clean under the hood. I could do away with the fuel smell. Nice build tho.

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by McBrayer

Nope, it isn't a problem at all and vacuum isn't required. The only reason it is vacuumed back into the engine is for emission reasons. Burning the vapors in the engine reduced harmful emissions and make the EPA happier.

All engines have blow by, the piston rings do not provide a perfect seal. This means that all engine crankcases run at a slightly positive pressure and must vent somewhere, some how. The blow by is substantially increased when an engine is supercharged, turbocharged or otherwise boosted.

The connection to the inlet on the stock setup isn't just so that those vapors are consumed by the engine, it is also built that way so as to provide vacuum, drawing out the vapors from the crank case. You cannot rely solely on blowby to evacuate the crankcase sufficiently.

Good luck man, my Catch Can setup will include a vacuum connection.