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backeddy · 03-19-2015, 12:43 AM

I know many of you guys know I track, but what you probably don't know is that I am anal about having a backup for everything if I am driving 3 hours each way to get there. I bought a ZL1 brake kit a while back but could not find a back up...until today! so here are my new back up set that I just scored on. $1000 but I had to remove (front/rear cradles on the ground) them. What a deal. My question now: what tools are you guys using to get those damn caliper bolts off while on the car...It was hard enough on the ground! is an 18mm wrench and a small sledge hammer the answer? or?

CrystalRedTintcoat · 03-19-2015, 03:32 AM

I split an 18mm 12 section socket trying to get mine loose. See my Weekend Mechanic thread. Someone suggested a box end wrench and a ball pien hammer.

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X25 · 03-19-2015, 04:33 AM

I don't get it; so you already had ZL1 kit, but bought another one as backup? Why do you think it would ever fail?

If there's one thing that will fail, it'll probably be pads. You might get a backup for that

Dropspeed · 03-19-2015, 06:39 AM

I use a socket, breaker bar and my right arm.

I have raced in NASA and been instructing for 17+ years. I understand pads and rotors......calipers is a tad overboard. Never once in all of that time have I needed or thought I needed a caliper at the track.

backeddy · 03-19-2015, 02:18 PM

I have been racing since I was 15 (35 years), I probably have broken one of everything. 2 years ago I used all of my vacation and went 1500 miles to a 3 day event and on the second lap, a fractured rotor tore off the caliper and I had a replacement with me, so no big deal...easy fix. During the last session of the first day small steel bumper fell off of a car in front of us, guess where it ended up? The spaces in between the wheel spokes caught the end of it......Rotor and caliper.. kaput. end of my long planned, long drive vacation. Never again....

Just because it does not happen often, does not mean it wont happen on your way home tonight.....

X25 · 03-19-2015, 02:39 PM

Back in 2006, I decided I could go full throttle in the ramp since I had an AWD (STi), but it didn't work out and I hit the curb with my rear left tire, bending one of my control arms.

Himm, I'd better start stocking fenders and control arms. Just because it doesn't happen often, it doesn't mean it never will...

Dropspeed · 03-19-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

I have been racing since I was 15 (35 years), I probably have broken one of everything. 2 years ago I used all of my vacation and went 1500 miles to a 3 day event and on the second lap, a fractured rotor tore off the caliper and I had a replacement with me, so no big deal...easy fix. During the last session of the first day small steel bumper fell off of a car in front of us, guess where it ended up? The spaces in between the wheel spokes caught the end of it......Rotor and caliper.. kaput. end of my long planned, long drive vacation. Never again....

Just because it does not happen often, does not mean it wont happen on your way home tonight.....

Sounds more like bad luck than a potential issues for the majority. Because you have experienced two caliper related incidents it makes sense for you to carry spares. I guess I don't worry as much about track failures as I trailer the car to the track. If I break something and can't fix it I pack it up for the day and head home.

Camarotobeornottobe · 03-19-2015, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by X25

Back in 2006, I decided I could go full throttle in the ramp since I had an AWD (STi), but it didn't work out and I hit the curb with my rear left tire, bending one of my control arms.

Himm, I'd better start stocking fenders and control arms. Just because it doesn't happen often, it doesn't mean it never will...

Why so grumpy?

This comes down to simple risk calculations and a risk-aversion-to-pocket-depth balance for the OP. To each his own.

If only those ZL1 calipers were red

backeddy · 03-19-2015, 03:11 PM

I wish I had the trailer option.....Just have downsized everything since my kids moved out, so no longer have the room. I agree, bad luck, but having everything with me also helps out other people at the track too....there are a couple of camaro owners running around on rotors that I brought! Don't know who they are, nor would I take their $$$, now if GM only treated ME that way lol.

KaBoom1701 · 03-19-2015, 04:23 PM

Great buy!

Not a bad pick up if you ask me.

Don't mind the haters. lol

backeddy · 03-19-2015, 06:10 PM

Thanks kaboom, it was a great deal, everything is pretty much new, but man I have encountered some tight bolts before...but these were ridiculous! On the assembly line I can hear it now:"how tight should we torque these bolts boss? oh just go get that 8' breaker bar, that'll prolly do it...eh"

KaBoom1701 · 03-19-2015, 07:28 PM

Well I know the brake caliper bolts are 30lbs + 90 degrees .....I'm assuming it's the same for the ZL1 brakes....don't have a service manual to verify though...

Mark T · 03-19-2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Great buy!

Not a bad pick up if you ask me.

Don't mind the haters. lol

The deal is in this thread the op says he wants spare parts and is willing to express that craigslist is an excellent resource. Kudos And thanks.

OP. Dont let anyone question your motives or reasoning. That isnt why you made this thread.

EarlyApex · 03-19-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed

Sounds more like bad luck than a potential issues for the majority. Because you have experienced two caliper related incidents it makes sense for you to carry spares. I guess I don't worry as much about track failures as I trailer the car to the track. If I break something and can't fix it I pack it up for the day and head home.

What kind of trailer dropspeed?

03-19-2015, 12:43 AM	#1
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	My 1LE loves Craigslist...again and question about caliper bolts I know many of you guys know I track, but what you probably don't know is that I am anal about having a backup for everything if I am driving 3 hours each way to get there. I bought a ZL1 brake kit a while back but could not find a back up...until today! so here are my new back up set that I just scored on. $1000 but I had to remove (front/rear cradles on the ground) them. What a deal. My question now: what tools are you guys using to get those damn caliper bolts off while on the car...It was hard enough on the ground! is an 18mm wrench and a small sledge hammer the answer? or? Attached Images

03-19-2015, 03:32 AM	#2
CrystalRedTintcoat Drives: 2013 2SS 1LE NPP GBE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Bay Area, online, & in my 1LE Posts: 2,667 View My Garage	My 1LE loves Craigslist...again and question about caliper bolts I split an 18mm 12 section socket trying to get mine loose. See my Weekend Mechanic thread. Someone suggested a box end wrench and a ball pien hammer. -CRT Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ 2013 1LE NPP GBE Mods Track Days

03-19-2015, 04:33 AM	#3
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	I don't get it; so you already had ZL1 kit, but bought another one as backup? Why do you think it would ever fail? If there's one thing that will fail, it'll probably be pads. You might get a backup for that __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

03-19-2015, 06:39 AM	#4
Dropspeed 2013 Camaro SS1LECTSVZ28 Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Suburbs of Detroit, MI Posts: 2,440	I use a socket, breaker bar and my right arm. I have raced in NASA and been instructing for 17+ years. I understand pads and rotors......calipers is a tad overboard. Never once in all of that time have I needed or thought I needed a caliper at the track. __________________ My 1LE Build/Journal : http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351990

03-19-2015, 02:39 PM	#6
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	Back in 2006, I decided I could go full throttle in the ramp since I had an AWD (STi), but it didn't work out and I hit the curb with my rear left tire, bending one of my control arms. Himm, I'd better start stocking fenders and control arms. Just because it doesn't happen often, it doesn't mean it never will... __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

03-19-2015, 02:18 PM	#5
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	I have been racing since I was 15 (35 years), I probably have broken one of everything. 2 years ago I used all of my vacation and went 1500 miles to a 3 day event and on the second lap, a fractured rotor tore off the caliper and I had a replacement with me, so no big deal...easy fix. During the last session of the first day small steel bumper fell off of a car in front of us, guess where it ended up? The spaces in between the wheel spokes caught the end of it......Rotor and caliper.. kaput. end of my long planned, long drive vacation. Never again.... Just because it does not happen often, does not mean it wont happen on your way home tonight.....

03-19-2015, 03:11 PM	#9
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	I wish I had the trailer option.....Just have downsized everything since my kids moved out, so no longer have the room. I agree, bad luck, but having everything with me also helps out other people at the track too....there are a couple of camaro owners running around on rotors that I brought! Don't know who they are, nor would I take their $$$, now if GM only treated ME that way lol.

03-19-2015, 04:23 PM	#10
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Great buy! Not a bad pick up if you ask me. Don't mind the haters. lol __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

03-19-2015, 06:10 PM	#11
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	Thanks kaboom, it was a great deal, everything is pretty much new, but man I have encountered some tight bolts before...but these were ridiculous! On the assembly line I can hear it now:"how tight should we torque these bolts boss? oh just go get that 8' breaker bar, that'll prolly do it...eh"

03-19-2015, 07:28 PM	#12
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Well I know the brake caliper bolts are 30lbs + 90 degrees .....I'm assuming it's the same for the ZL1 brakes....don't have a service manual to verify though... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.