2019 Camaro unveiled with refreshed design, 10 Speed and 1LE Turbo Model!! - Page 14

PYROLYSIS · 04-09-2018, 10:01 AM

Not liking it at all. The 5th gen refresh grew on me in a couple days. I don’t see ever liking this change but we will see. I can’t believe the Camaro team allowed the corporate grill to pollute the Camaro’s design language. I hope the Camaro survives this design misstep and returns strong in the 7th gen.

detltu · 04-09-2018, 10:01 AM

Wow. It makes it look so much better with the bow tie moved into the upper grill. I think I like the painted center section better too.

Like most mid cycle refreshes this one doesn't do it for me yet, but most of them grow on me. I didn't like the 98's at first but owned a 99SS. Didn't like the 14 refresh right away but really liked it after they hit the streets. I wish there were more substance to this refresh though. The 10 speed is a welcome addition as is the collision alert.

A power bump or adaptive cruise would be nice. Still hopeful we will get a Z28 or some improvements to the Zl1 (maybe CC Brakes). I guess we will see.

Atlas24601 · 04-09-2018, 10:02 AM

I like the extractor hood. Everything else looks worse.

Interceptor9c1 · 04-09-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by crankaholic

I think it looks MUCH better with a painted grill center and raised bowtie! If the bowtie is easy to remove, it's not a big deal... I like it otherwise and the 10 speed will be a welcome improvement!

edit: I can't tell if that's hyper blue... is it?

Hey GM, if you'd are reading through this thread for owner reactions, move that bowtie like this before you start producing these things.

SecondZ28 · 04-09-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LOBBS

I seem to remember it being called a flowtie somewhere this morning. It'd be even better if it weren't.

Yep

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SS-specific front fascia with “flowtie” open bowtie grille emblem

ScottMZ3 · 04-09-2018, 10:05 AM

Ewww!! The new front and rear are terrible IMHO. Glad I have my ‘18!

I wouldn’t have minded having the new safety tech and infotainment though. I tried that video rear view mirror in a Cadillac a couple months ago, it was awesome.

LuvMI · 04-09-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gpskinzhut

Oh hell naw. Who the hell authorized that?

LOL!!!!!!!!

maraging · 04-09-2018, 10:06 AM

That turbo 4 1le should add dozens of sales per year.

Quinten_33 · 04-09-2018, 10:06 AM

There needs to be an option for the black bar across the front to be body color.

I think that this design will grow on us. The SS looks mean from many angles and the 2.0T 1LE looks even better. The LT/LS models will no longer look cheap up front, which is a plus. Can’t wait to see the SS 1LE and what the refresh looks like with different colors.

97CamaroLT4 · 04-09-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper1965

WTF is this ? ?? This is the greatest troll ever, or I'm sick...

Somehow I think I would have preferred this. I think the charger looks good. This ... I don't even know where to start - the Flowtie is out of place and should be on the top grill, the rear lights are horrible, and I think I prefer the nostrils to this hood vent. Maybe it just all looks like this in photos but I think I just made my mind up to pick a SS 1LE now and not wait for this.

F1FTY · 04-09-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor9c1

Hey GM, if you'd are reading through this thread for owner reactions, move that bowtie like this before you start producing these things.

+1

I think this photoshop fixes the redesign.

I prefer refreshes that retain the majority of the design, but make nip and tuck changes to show an evolution rather than a revolution in the design. The germans have been historically great at that on the more iconic vehicles. I wish Chevrolet had followed that, but with sales the way they are i imagine they chose to make a louder statement.

LuvMI · 04-09-2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

Everyone hates it because we all have an outdated model now. We want to believe ours is better so we get defensive. I don't hate it, but I feel its softer than the 16-18's.

Has nothing to do with having *outdated* any everything to do with being fugly. IMO.

Bhobbs · 04-09-2018, 10:11 AM

They are running the flowtie idea into the ground.

SILVER BULLET RS · 04-09-2018, 10:11 AM

I LOVE the new look, it looks so futuristic! It looks just like the Transformers Camaro! The rear lights are awesome and the front fascia really stands out like never before! Yes, they could have put the flowtie on the front SS grill instead of the actual bumper but the bowtie really pops out where they decided to put it! I think its funny that every refresh GM releases every couple years, the TRUE Camaro fans SHRED the car to pieces! The Mustang guys do the same thing to their beloved pony car, so we aren't any better! I'm sure the design engineers that work for GM and Ford really don't care what the TRUE fans think, because they know whatever they come up with it's going to be met with vicious criticism! I'm sure GM isn't losing any sleep over the new refresh, it will sell very good.

04-09-2018, 10:01 AM	#183
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Not liking it at all. The 5th gen refresh grew on me in a couple days. I don’t see ever liking this change but we will see. I can’t believe the Camaro team allowed the corporate grill to pollute the Camaro’s design language. I hope the Camaro survives this design misstep and returns strong in the 7th gen. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

04-09-2018, 10:01 AM	#184
detltu Drives: 1992 Z28 1LE; 2015 Zl1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 866 View My Garage	Wow. It makes it look so much better with the bow tie moved into the upper grill. I think I like the painted center section better too. Like most mid cycle refreshes this one doesn't do it for me yet, but most of them grow on me. I didn't like the 98's at first but owned a 99SS. Didn't like the 14 refresh right away but really liked it after they hit the streets. I wish there were more substance to this refresh though. The 10 speed is a welcome addition as is the collision alert. A power bump or adaptive cruise would be nice. Still hopeful we will get a Z28 or some improvements to the Zl1 (maybe CC Brakes). I guess we will see. __________________ 1989 Camaro RS convertible- Sold 1999 Camaro SS - Stolen 2x 1991 Camaro Z28- 1991 Camaro Z28 1LE- 1992 Camaro Z28 1LE- 25th anniversary 2015 Camaro ZL1

04-09-2018, 10:05 AM	#188
ScottMZ3 Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10, 2019 BMW X5 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 256	Ewww!! The new front and rear are terrible IMHO. Glad I have my ‘18! I wouldn’t have minded having the new safety tech and infotainment though. I tried that video rear view mirror in a Cadillac a couple months ago, it was awesome. __________________ 2018 Nightfall Gray Metallic Camaro ZL1 - A10 Purchased 9/23/2017

04-09-2018, 10:11 AM	#195
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	They are running the flowtie idea into the ground. __________________

04-09-2018, 10:02 AM	#185
Atlas24601 Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: FL Posts: 123	I like the extractor hood. Everything else looks worse.

04-09-2018, 10:06 AM	#190
maraging Drives: 15 1ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: kansas Posts: 295	That turbo 4 1le should add dozens of sales per year.

04-09-2018, 10:06 AM	#191
Quinten_33 Drives: Silverado Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Above ground? Posts: 214	There needs to be an option for the black bar across the front to be body color. I think that this design will grow on us. The SS looks mean from many angles and the 2.0T 1LE looks even better. The LT/LS models will no longer look cheap up front, which is a plus. Can’t wait to see the SS 1LE and what the refresh looks like with different colors.

04-09-2018, 10:11 AM	#196
SILVER BULLET RS Drives: 2012 Black Synergy Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rochester , new york Posts: 41	I LOVE the new look, it looks so futuristic! It looks just like the Transformers Camaro! The rear lights are awesome and the front fascia really stands out like never before! Yes, they could have put the flowtie on the front SS grill instead of the actual bumper but the bowtie really pops out where they decided to put it! I think its funny that every refresh GM releases every couple years, the TRUE Camaro fans SHRED the car to pieces! The Mustang guys do the same thing to their beloved pony car, so we aren't any better! I'm sure the design engineers that work for GM and Ford really don't care what the TRUE fans think, because they know whatever they come up with it's going to be met with vicious criticism! I'm sure GM isn't losing any sleep over the new refresh, it will sell very good.

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