And you wonder why Challenger is #1 in sales?

95 imp · 11-17-2021, 08:00 AM

Here is yet another reason why Dodge is leading. They are doing stuff that "can't be done" in today's business model.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...?ocid=msedgntp

Maybe gm (not GM) should take notes so they can sell some cars...

detamble13 · 11-17-2021, 08:25 AM

Dodge's naming of their high hp products is second to none. SS, ZL1, 1LE etc. are fine to those in the know but don't appeal to a general audience and sales show. I still don't know how their line of Poop Pack cars sell though.

The new Jay Lenos garage with the Z06 was cool to watch but also a bit disheartening when the engineer spoke about how the project had started before their concentration on electric. Basically you won't see many (or any) more products like it. And I still hold on to some hope that LT6 makes it into a Camaro called Z/28.

CHerna · 11-17-2021, 08:34 AM

"Jailbreak" is only available on Redeye cars. They're not really doing anything ground breaking here, just continuing to use off shelf parts. To me, this basically says "we've milked this platform all we can. Just built whatever you want".

Scat Pack cars sell because they're very cheap to lease. Young people love them because they're cheap horsepower. Old people love them because they're good cruisers.

I didn't like mine. It was not dynamic enough.

10mm · 11-17-2021, 08:43 AM

Complain to the boss

Red Chief · 11-17-2021, 09:21 AM

Jailbreak is a fitting term for Dodge. Their clientele has the worst credit rating of any vehicle sold in the US.

I guess "America's #1 most repo'd car brand" might be a little too on the nose as a marketing slogan.

Jeb114 · 11-17-2021, 09:53 AM

Wow Haters Hate.........

BlackbeastSS2 · 11-17-2021, 10:14 AM

I think Dodge is #1 in sales because it’s an appealing looking muscle car with great HP and actually has a back seat area that will fit people back there some what comfortable. Plus the visibility when driving is better then the Camaro and they have bad ass commercials. Drivers that have not experienced the Camaro’s allure see the above comments and will try a Dodge before a GM product IMO.

jamala00 · 11-17-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackbeastSS2

I think Dodge is #1 in sales because it’s an appealing looking muscle car with great HP and actually has a back seat area that will fit people back there some what comfortable. Plus the visibility when driving is better then the Camaro and they have bad ass commercials. Drivers that have not experienced the Camaro’s allure see the above comments and will try a Dodge before a GM product IMO.

^^^^ Agreed, I think that is the exact reason the Challenger leads in sales. A lot of guys want a muscle car, but have a family/kids

raptor5244 · 11-17-2021, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

^^^^ Agreed, I think that is the exact reason the Challenger leads in sales. A lot of guys want a muscle car, but have a family/kids

I guess the Charger could work for a family but who would want to climb in the back seat of a Challenger or any 2-door coupe nowadays? If you have a family and driving all over the place for school, sports, groceries, etc. most are choosing an SUV, Minivan, etc.

Kids tend to destroy cars anyway and I would lose my mind dealing with that...

jamala00 · 11-17-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor5244

I guess the Charger could work for a family but who would want to climb in the back seat of a Challenger or any 2-door coupe nowadays? If you have a family and driving all over the place for school, sports, groceries, etc. most are choosing an SUV, Minivan, etc.

Kids tend to destroy cars anyway and I would lose my mind dealing with that...

They make 4 door versions of even the Hellcat

AZIROC · 11-17-2021, 12:10 PM

I hate to say its cause of the stereotypes, but for dodge...its true. The reason their sales r so good is anyone with even shit credit (or $99 down and a job) qualifies. What id be curious is how many get repod for none payment.

hotlap · 11-17-2021, 12:44 PM

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raptor5244 · 11-17-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

They make 4 door versions of even the Hellcat

Indeed, I think I actually like the Charger better than the Challenger. I think in my mind because it is so big and heavy to begin with you might as well make it practical and go for the Charger and get 4 doors.

s2mikey · 11-17-2021, 12:49 PM

Yeah - no question about Dodge/Mopar being for credit-score challenged consumers. But, people with fine credit buy them too. My issue with the challenger is that its simply a luxo-boat and not sporty whatsoever without spending who knows how much on "fixing" its horrible handling. Too heavy, too cumbersome, not for me. Great looking car though, in the right colors anyways.

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CHerna Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 222	"Jailbreak" is only available on Redeye cars. They're not really doing anything ground breaking here, just continuing to use off shelf parts. To me, this basically says "we've milked this platform all we can. Just built whatever you want". Scat Pack cars sell because they're very cheap to lease. Young people love them because they're cheap horsepower. Old people love them because they're good cruisers. I didn't like mine. It was not dynamic enough. __________________ Alpha Platform Aficionado 2022 Camaro SS 1LE \| Rapid Blue \| Manual Cadillac ATS 3.6 RWD \| Daily Driver Previous: Challenger Scat Pack Widebody

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95 imp Dumb Ass Deluxe Drives: A Tricked Out Mountain Bike Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,791	And you wonder why Challenger is #1 in sales? Here is yet another reason why Dodge is leading. They are doing stuff that "can't be done" in today's business model. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...?ocid=msedgntp Maybe gm (not GM) should take notes so they can sell some cars... __________________

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detamble13 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 VR Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chatham, ON Posts: 579	Dodge's naming of their high hp products is second to none. SS, ZL1, 1LE etc. are fine to those in the know but don't appeal to a general audience and sales show. I still don't know how their line of Poop Pack cars sell though. The new Jay Lenos garage with the Z06 was cool to watch but also a bit disheartening when the engineer spoke about how the project had started before their concentration on electric. Basically you won't see many (or any) more products like it. And I still hold on to some hope that LT6 makes it into a Camaro called Z/28.

11-17-2021, 09:21 AM	#5
Red Chief Drives: 2020 LT1 Black Join Date: May 2013 Location: MO Posts: 522	Jailbreak is a fitting term for Dodge. Their clientele has the worst credit rating of any vehicle sold in the US. I guess "America's #1 most repo'd car brand" might be a little too on the nose as a marketing slogan.

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Jeb114 Drives: 2021 300 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 931	Wow Haters Hate.........

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AZIROC Drives: '86 IROC-Z '18 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 459	I hate to say its cause of the stereotypes, but for dodge...its true. The reason their sales r so good is anyone with even shit credit (or $99 down and a job) qualifies. What id be curious is how many get repod for none payment.

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s2mikey Drives: Buick, Toyota Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 264	Yeah - no question about Dodge/Mopar being for credit-score challenged consumers. But, people with fine credit buy them too. My issue with the challenger is that its simply a luxo-boat and not sporty whatsoever without spending who knows how much on "fixing" its horrible handling. Too heavy, too cumbersome, not for me. Great looking car though, in the right colors anyways.

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