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Old 01-24-2022, 07:28 AM   #8079
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-truck-LA.html


Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis apparently bought a new daily driver and they appear to be fans of it.
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Old 01-25-2022, 11:04 AM   #8080
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GM announces $7 billion investment in Michigan manufacturing facilities
-GM Orion Assembly converted to Chevrolet Silverado EV/GMC Sierra EV production
-New Ultium Cells Lansing facility
-Lansing Delta Township Assembly for next gen Chevrolet Traverse/Buick Enclave
-Lansing Grand River plant upgrades
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:20 PM   #8081
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https://www.costcoauto.com/new_cars/

Looks like Costco has a build tool and pricing for the new refreshed 1500 trucks on their website. No idea if the option MSRP pricing is accurate, but its at least fun to play around with something finally and get an idea on what everything may cost.

Maybe it means the GM tool is close?
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:03 AM   #8082
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https://youtu.be/pj7t5mWfnvs
Fully optioned ZR2 is 74k (base of 66k). At that price I'd rather get an AT4x and it least get massaging seats.
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:20 AM   #8083
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Fully optioned ZR2 is 74k (base of 66k). At that price I'd rather get an AT4x and it least get massaging seats.
Freaking crazy how expensive trucks can get.
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Old 01-26-2022, 09:05 AM   #8084
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^Yea its essentially a pick up (a well optioned one), yet GM wants a kidney for it.
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Old 01-26-2022, 09:08 AM   #8085
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Freaking crazy how expensive trucks can get.
It's insane how fast trucks get expensive. I know there is a ton more tech and safety and capability blah blah blah but it's insanity. But people are paying it so guess keep pumping them out
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 01-26-2022, 09:53 AM   #8086
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I paid 60K for my 2017 Denali 1500 Ultimate - 6.2 - CDN funds.

I can't even imagine buying a truck now.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:12 AM   #8087
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My 2020 Limited stickered 72. I got it before the bubble amd got it for a great price. Would not even touch it now.


Back on topic, i hope gm knows what they are doing. 7 billion is a lot of $$ and i perfer not to bail them out again
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:17 PM   #8088
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GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:32 PM   #8089
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GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.

Wait she said let the market decide? So a 7 billion dollar gamble
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Old 01-26-2022, 01:51 PM   #8090
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GM is already begging the government for more EV tax credits. Barra says they're being "penalized" for selling too many EVs. She also said she wants the market to decide. Ok great. Let's get rid of the incentive for everyone.
You do realize that these particular credits don’t go into the automakers’ pockets, right? They go to the vehicle buyer. Where it benefits GM (and Tesla, since they also are out of credits) is it makes the vehicle appear several thousand dollars less expensive. When GM and Tesla ran out of credits, they reduced the prices on their EVs to be close to what the net price to the buyer would have been if the incentives were still in place.
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:08 PM   #8091
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You do realize that these particular credits don’t go into the automakers’ pockets, right? They go to the vehicle buyer. Where it benefits GM (and Tesla, since they also are out of credits) is it makes the vehicle appear several thousand dollars less expensive. When GM and Tesla ran out of credits, they reduced the prices on their EVs to be close to what the net price to the buyer would have been if the incentives were still in place.
Yes, of course (although it's murky). Lease it, it goes to lessor and only potentially lower payments then. Also you have to have a tax liability to claim it. How many folks actually get the $7,500 even though it's widely quoted as a sure thing. So it depends.

What's the solution to be on equal footing from an automakers perspective? Telsa: get rid of all subsidies (of course after benefiting from them in the past). GM: government intervention to apply subsidies to all equally forever.
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:52 PM   #8092
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The fact you have to pay $1,150 for rock sliders on the Silverado ZR2 is an absolute joke. GM really doesn’t care for enthusiasts.
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