[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

I dont believe a 6th gen, especially stock or LBO will beat a FBO/cam 5th gen 1LE. A cammed LS3 is still around 450rwhp+ with the 1LE lighter wheels and agressive gearing, its a good performer.

Those stalled/FBO/ weight reduction 6th gen are going to hurt plp feelings hard!!

It didn't say what mods besides a cam and we don't know how aggressive the cam was.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Hes gonna beat you good on a roll. If youre A8, a dig must be part of the deal! They are trapping a solid 117mph, which is 2 3mph than the SS. A good gap..

Even though a new camaro has trapped 116 stock I don't see that being the norm and your right from a roll it should be gt350 all day unless the driver really sucks. But a tune should close that gap.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

The owner of the mustang said in the comments that he only has a tune and cold air. Even then its basically even and he still gets RAPED!!!!

i don't see that at all... Description says full bolt on. Only see one comment

But yeah either way it's very very ugly.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

I dont believe a 6th gen, especially stock or LBO will beat a FBO/cam 5th gen 1LE. A cammed LS3 is still around 450rwhp+ with the 1LE lighter wheels and agressive gearing, its a good performer.

Those stalled/FBO/ weight reduction 6th gen are going to hurt plp feelings hard!!

At only 450rwhp a 5th gen would be in trouble to a light bolt on tune 6th gen. It would be near that number and 200 lbs lighter and an a8. Game over.

450 rwhp is a pretty weak cam though. My car made 435rwhp with no internal mods.

Btw the trans gearing pretty much negates the 3.91 gears of the 1le. Shift points are nearly the same as a standard SS.


I really think that a strong full bolt on 6gen would run neck and neck with my old car.

[WHAMMO]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

At only 450rwhp a 5th gen would be in trouble to a light bolt on tune 6th gen. It would be near that number and 200 lbs lighter and an a8. Game over.

450 rwhp is a pretty weak cam though. My car made 435rwhp with no internal mods.

I said 450rwhp on purpose bc its the bare minimum you can get with a baby cam. Still I dont believe in 'magically higher dyno numbers'. 475rwhp is doable with a very agressive cam, but some numbers are silly. 435rwhp is on the high side if you had basic FBO, but I dont know what your car had anyway.

I remember raping everything that had a better dyno sheet than my old 387rwhp LS1! Especially that other 425rwhp 2002' Camaro! I could write a page long of those

Btw the trans gearing pretty much negates the 3.91 gears of the 1le. Shift points are nearly the same as a standard SS.

They dont shift to 4th before 1/4 mile, which is a big diffence IMO compared to 1LE. Gears are too long in the stock SS


I really think that a strong full bolt on 6gen would run neck and neck with my old car.

They are going to run hard for sure! I've seen a bolton C7 and it was running hard at the track!

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[jwcassidy1969]

The gen6 manual trans has the same gearing and a 373 gear to the 391 in the 1le. My cammed 1LE is 480whp and don't think that either car is set up from a dig anymore. The A8 will be the track monster for sure but on a role m6 to m6 will be a good race. I drove the new A8 and it was nice just not ready for an auto. car yet. But still 1le is not much heavier than a loaded g6 and with a 100 extra hp don't think the g6 would win on a roll. I have rolled from 40-120 with a 13 gt500 and my wife was in the car and the other car with driver only and he never pulled me.

[Cuda7050]

Originally Posted by jwcassidy1969

The gen6 manual trans has the same gearing and a 373 gear to the 391 in the 1le. My cammed 1LE is 480whp and don't think that either car is set up from a dig anymore. The A8 will be the track monster for sure but on a role m6 to m6 will be a good race. I drove the new A8 and it was nice just not ready for an auto. car yet. But still 1le is not much heavier than a loaded g6 and with a 100 extra hp don't think the g6 would win on a roll. I have rolled from 40-120 with a 13 gt500 and my wife was in the car and the other car with driver only and he never pulled me.

Maybe you should just take it to the drags and see what kind of number you can put up instead of speculating about it? If you can run a 12.30-12.40 you can run with a Gen 6 manual.

[jwcassidy1969]

Why take a car to the track that's not set up for a drag strip? That's not why I got it but have ran at the track in my past cars and no speculation here .

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by jwcassidy1969

The gen6 manual trans has the same gearing and a 373 gear to the 391 in the 1le. My cammed 1LE is 480whp and don't think that either car is set up from a dig anymore. The A8 will be the track monster for sure but on a role m6 to m6 will be a good race. I drove the new A8 and it was nice just not ready for an auto. car yet. But still 1le is not much heavier than a loaded g6 and with a 100 extra hp don't think the g6 would win on a roll. I have rolled from 40-120 with a 13 gt500 and my wife was in the car and the other car with driver only and he never pulled me.

I think you may have mistaken what year of GT500 you were playing with there.

[ChefBorOzzy]

My thoughts as well.. Just don't see the car keeping up with a 13 GT500 unless he couldn't put the power down.. Which is possible in that car.

[NASTY99Z28]

A gt500 with the 5.8 will walk away from a cam only 5th gen. It's takes modded zl1's to keep up with a stock gt500 especially from a roll.