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1KillerSS · 03-12-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by angryv6

This thread is full of doubt! Hey OP congrats on making your beast super.

not doubt just skepticism....i worked in a dyno shop and i know what i am asking for is not unreasonable to ask. its the first questions we would have for any customer regardless of there HP number

BigBlock69RS · 03-12-2014, 08:05 PM

Mine was dyno'd at 409rwhp, with just a CAI and ported tb. Add headers, tune, pulley and intake and I could easily see where the other 30- 40 hp came from.

If you look at the 1le Dyno thread, stock 1le are usually coming in at 385-415 rwhp.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271144

Personally I think gm is taking the top 1% of the ls3 motors and sticking them in the 1le. With any mass produced motor there are always the gems, especially if they are doing cherry picking at the component level.

1KillerSS · 03-12-2014, 08:08 PM

this is just proving my point.....there are different numbers all over the board...i have only 391 on a clayton eddycurrent with my mods now i have an inferior CAI and im only runing BBK shroties and the dyno was done while i still had my cats on but all my point is ....is that the gains are more important than the total number....and thats because were not all going to have the same numbers high or low.

Mydivorcegift · 03-12-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeLA2011ss

Listen man, I'm glad you like your mods but I would take that car I another dyno and re check that, if those numbers are true you have the highest Bolton hp of every Camaro on earth... I had every Bolton available literally and only did 425...ls3

Oh well that settles it...

If you had every bolt on and only made 425 there is no way anyone would ever make anymore....

Congrats OP.

BigBlock69RS · 03-12-2014, 08:15 PM

Also don't forget NPP certainly will help some, as will the electric power steering.

MikeLA2011ss · 03-12-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Oh well that settles it...

If you had every bolt on and only made 425 there is no way anyone would ever make anymore....

Congrats OP.

The point I was getting Accross was that with every single bolt on I had the gains he got from adding pulleys headers and a cai dipshit

MikeLA2011ss · 03-12-2014, 08:20 PM

vettes make around 430 with full Bolt ons and they always make more power than camaro with the same motor. This guy is saying he Imade 446rwhp with intake and ported tb , intake and headers. What's more likey, they numbers are off or this guy is the only one in the entire country (including the man that designed the e38 software on the ls3) doesn't know what he knows ...

raw_shark · 03-12-2014, 08:22 PM

Look guys I didn't mean to turn this into a pissing contest, I was just sharing. I'm just glad the car is running good. I have no idea about the baseline I have no interest in dyno numbers of stock cars. To me 406 or 446 I would have been just as happy. I have no clue what numbers others are hitting.

As for questions on intake mods, you can search Rhino's threads for that info. A few HP here, a few HP there, and after a while it adds up. I don't see what the big deal is.

**** it, either way, thanks guys! This forum is awesome, haters included!

MikeLA2011ss · 03-12-2014, 08:29 PM

My lawn mower has 400hp

Rhino79 · 03-12-2014, 08:33 PM

Car baselined at 390.

Cai, underdrive pulley, ported tb, modded intake manifold, 1 7/8 lts, no cats, pump 93, and tune is on kill mode. 56 from every bolt on imaginable is not unrealistic.

The dyno doesn't read high, no voodoo, sorry guys.

I make 540 on the same dyno and trap 133.5, do the math at 3700 raceweight and back into the numbers!

Rhino79 · 03-12-2014, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeLA2011ss

My lawn mower has 400hp

What does your 900 rwhp car run sir?

1KillerSS · 03-12-2014, 08:37 PM

you dont think 390 baseline is high?

Rhino79 · 03-12-2014, 08:40 PM

It is at the higher side of what I have seen. But not all motors are the same. Look at the fast lists and all over, every car is going to be different.

Is 540 high for a cam head L99 car like my own, yes. I have time slips to back it up though.

1KillerSS · 03-12-2014, 08:42 PM

390 is about 10 to 15 more then the average....thast one hell of a strong stock motor....congrats on your mods and the power gains....thasts all i was after was the gains

03-12-2014, 08:05 PM	#16
BigBlock69RS Ed Drives: 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 951	Mine was dyno'd at 409rwhp, with just a CAI and ported tb. Add headers, tune, pulley and intake and I could easily see where the other 30- 40 hp came from. If you look at the 1le Dyno thread, stock 1le are usually coming in at 385-415 rwhp. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271144 Personally I think gm is taking the top 1% of the ls3 motors and sticking them in the 1le. With any mass produced motor there are always the gems, especially if they are doing cherry picking at the component level. __________________

03-12-2014, 08:08 PM	#17
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	this is just proving my point.....there are different numbers all over the board...i have only 391 on a clayton eddycurrent with my mods now i have an inferior CAI and im only runing BBK shroties and the dyno was done while i still had my cats on but all my point is ....is that the gains are more important than the total number....and thats because were not all going to have the same numbers high or low. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-12-2014, 08:15 PM	#19
BigBlock69RS Ed Drives: 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 951	Also don't forget NPP certainly will help some, as will the electric power steering. __________________

03-12-2014, 08:37 PM	#26
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	you dont think 390 baseline is high? __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-12-2014, 08:42 PM	#28
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	390 is about 10 to 15 more then the average....thast one hell of a strong stock motor....congrats on your mods and the power gains....thasts all i was after was the gains __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-12-2014, 08:20 PM	#21
MikeLA2011ss Drives: 2011 TT 416ci Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette la Posts: 130 View My Garage	vettes make around 430 with full Bolt ons and they always make more power than camaro with the same motor. This guy is saying he Imade 446rwhp with intake and ported tb , intake and headers. What's more likey, they numbers are off or this guy is the only one in the entire country (including the man that designed the e38 software on the ls3) doesn't know what he knows ...

03-12-2014, 08:22 PM	#22
raw_shark Drives: Black '13 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: AR Posts: 88	Look guys I didn't mean to turn this into a pissing contest, I was just sharing. I'm just glad the car is running good. I have no idea about the baseline I have no interest in dyno numbers of stock cars. To me 406 or 446 I would have been just as happy. I have no clue what numbers others are hitting. As for questions on intake mods, you can search Rhino's threads for that info. A few HP here, a few HP there, and after a while it adds up. I don't see what the big deal is. **** it, either way, thanks guys! This forum is awesome, haters included!

03-12-2014, 08:29 PM	#23
MikeLA2011ss Drives: 2011 TT 416ci Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette la Posts: 130 View My Garage	My lawn mower has 400hp

03-12-2014, 08:33 PM	#24
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Car baselined at 390. Cai, underdrive pulley, ported tb, modded intake manifold, 1 7/8 lts, no cats, pump 93, and tune is on kill mode. 56 from every bolt on imaginable is not unrealistic. The dyno doesn't read high, no voodoo, sorry guys. I make 540 on the same dyno and trap 133.5, do the math at 3700 raceweight and back into the numbers!

03-12-2014, 08:40 PM	#27
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	It is at the higher side of what I have seen. But not all motors are the same. Look at the fast lists and all over, every car is going to be different. Is 540 high for a cam head L99 car like my own, yes. I have time slips to back it up though.