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Old 02-10-2016, 12:58 AM   #71
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No doubt a nice package.....but unless the price is right, you can mod your SS (with or without MRC) and be about the same set-up....

3 seconds faster on Big Willow than a standard SS....Guessing that's a standard SS without MRC, brake upgrades, tires and wheels, etc.......Depending on the price, a few mods to a non 1LE SS, and you are good to go...
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I wonder what's making the v6 gain roughly 70lbs and will those same parts make the SS gain that weight?
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How much weight at we talking at most 50 pounds c'mon get real! Offer both options how hard is that??
You're talking about a platform that was developed with millimeters of material shaved off components to save a handful of pounds. It shouldn't surprise anyone that the 1LE is meant to be somewhat of a stripper car.
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The Camaro raises it’s own bar. That’s what designer Adam Barry had to say about the new 2017 1LE variants of the sixth-generation Camaro, “The 5th generation car was great, but we can’t rest on our laurels and wait for someone else to raise the bar, we need to do that ourselves.”

I admit, I was genuinely surprised with what I saw, and that doesn’t happen very often. Chevrolet granted a sneak peek of the Camaro 1LE, and I was reminded of an Oprah Winfrey show, where she gave stuff away to her viewers. “You can have one. And you can have one. You ALL can have one! Yay!”

Alright, enough hooks and teasers. Here’s the big news The Camaro 1LE is back – in two very big ways: First of all – you can now order one in V6 form. (No, the engine size was not a typo) And secondly: the SS version of the outstanding track package for the Camaro includes A LOT more equipment than before.

The first thing you noticed when they pulled the satin-blue car covers off the Camaros was the vibrant green color of the LT model. It’s nice…it’s not a metallic green like Synergy was, but it is very eye-catching nonetheless. Just, please note that this is not yet a production model for Camaro…but stay tuned (and voice your opinion!) Also, the green car photographed features the black tail lamps, and a cool fender decal. These are optional, and not included with the package.

The second thing that caught my eye was the Mammoth-wide tires on the SS version. Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G2 tires make a return, starring role to the 1LE package. And this time, team Camaro says the tires are specifically developed for Camaro, with a revised construction and compound. The number one goal for these cars (and one can’t help but imagine “others” as well…) is grip. Wonderful, face-tugging, road-hugging grip. The tread pattern is completely different than the tire we all either love or hate, and I’m not tire engineer, but it appears as though rain performance was thought of in the design, because there are wide longitudinal tread gaps, more like a Pilot Sport Cup versus Goodyear’s “signature” diagonal water-channels, that don’t always work…

Let’s start with the V6 version, first. You can order this track goodie-bag on either a 1LT, or a 2LT, but it's only packaged with the V6 engine. The LT/1LE approach to performance shares the most in common with the outgoing 1LE. It features an FE3-tuned suspension with components from the Camaro SS; including dampers, rear cradle mounts, ball-jointed rear toe links and stabilizer bars. The engine remains untouched, but the package does add all the necessary track coolers, brakes (Brembo 4-piston up front), and fuel system components to perform track duty. It puts power down through a short-throw manual transmission (manual-only) to a mechanical limited slip diff, utilizing a 3.27 axle ratio.

On the inside, the car features optional Recaro racing seats (with a revised design and bolstering to help with shifting versus last generation). The seats come in black leather with microfiber suede seating surfaces, and mimic the look of the standard seats’ inserts. A performance data recorder is optional. On the outside, the car is distinguished by a flat black hood, and black side mirrors (the 1LE signature look); and also a functional aero package including the accessories blade spoiler, and splitter in black, and a revised front fascia with a “DRL delete”, and unique grille. It rolls on forged aluminum 20” wheels (they’re they lightweight, forged accessory wheels for the SS, but in black). It looks menacing, and if I wasn’t an enthusiast, I’d never be able to distinguish that it “wasn’t a V8”…not that it matters anymore, Al Oppenheiser says this car will put up track times comparable to the last-generation SS!

Speaking of SSs….let’s talk about this new SS 1LE. The 1LE package originally debuted in 1989, as a road-racing package to help the Camaro become more competitive. And it wasn’t largely advertised or known; only 111 cars were built this way that year. In 2013, the 1LE package was a shock to the segment: It offered ridiculous amounts of track performance for not-at-all ridiculous amounts of money. The car features unique fuel pickups, wheels, tires, revised suspension components down to the bushings, the transmission out of the Z cars, and a differential ratio from the Z/28. And at a price starting at $37,000, it was so good a deal; it was compared favorably in performance with the Mustang Boss Laguna Seca which priced out at $50,000. Nobody could believe what team Camaro was offering. You couldn’t even get the wheels and tires alone for the price they were selling the package.

Chief Engineer Alo Oppenheiser says, “The Camaro 1LE packages follow a recipe any track-day enthusiast will appreciate. Start with a lightweight, stiff structure and then add higher levels of suspension stiffness and damping, more aggressive tires, higher down force, more powerful brakes and more cooling. The result delivers better performance in all measures.”

The last generation 1LE set the budget-performance bar…the bar, that Camaro raises itself. The new SS 1LE was designed and engineered from the get-go to be an outstanding performer, all it’s own – and that’s part of the reason they’re releasing it prior to any other models that may or may not exist. The car features the following; all standard equipment…no substitutions…and only available on a 1SS, manual transmission: revised, stiffer FE4 suspension with Magnetic Ride Control, electrionic limited slip differential, unique forged aluminum wheels in a graphite metallic color wearing those oh-so-sticky Goodyear’s mentioned earlier (285mm wide up front, and 305 mm wide in the back), Six-piston, monobloc front calipers in red (with the “1LE” logo proudly emblazoned on them) up front squeezing 14.6” two-piece rotors, red four piston brakes in the back, dual mode NPP exhaust, Recaro racing seats, suede-wrapped steering wheel and shifter, matte black hood and side-mirrors, HUD, leather rear seats metallic graphite front splitter, rear diffuser, and rear blade spoiler. The performance data recorder is optional.

How’s that for a laundry list of go-fast goodies? They say the SS 1LE laps the big willow course of Willow Springs a full three seconds faster than the standard SS. The Camaro folks have not released pricing information, yet. But they maintain that the 1LE package has and will remain a bargain in the segment for track performance. It is “track capable” from the showroom, unlike certain competitors, and the car will go on sale in late 2016, with orders like being placed in the summer.

Look out, GT350……(especially if you don’t have the track package selected!)

Ladies and Gentlemen…it is truly a GREAT time to be Camaro enthusiasts.

What do you think of the new 1LE offerings? Leave your comments below, as I’m always reminded, the Camaro team may not post…but they’re always reading.

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Old 02-10-2016, 01:06 AM   #76
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No doubt a nice package.....but unless the price is right, you can mod your SS (with or without MRC) and be about the same set-up....

3 seconds faster on Big Willow than a standard SS....Guessing that's a standard SS without MRC, brake upgrades, tires and wheels, etc.......Depending on the price, a few mods to a non 1LE SS, and you are good to go...
I don't think it will be that easy. At least not for the same price. The same was true of last generation's 1LE.

Obviously, nobody's driven one yet - but the ELSD is magical, according to magazines of the Stingray...and they've recalibrate MR for this particular setup. Of course, as always, a person can modify his/her own car to keep up...but there's that subtle factor of the driving "feel"...and I have a hunch that it's going to be effortless to drive this car ridiculously fast.

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I wonder what's making the v6 gain roughly 70lbs and will those same parts make the SS gain that weight?
Well, consider that even though they're forged...the wheels are much wider than the standard LT setup, there's additional track coolers, and the brakes are 4-piston Brembos up front standard. Then there's unique some aero components, too (marginal weight).

It all adds up pretty quick.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:07 AM   #77
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:07 AM   #78
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:10 AM   #79
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I don't think it will be that easy. At least not for the same price. The same was true of last generation's 1LE.

Obviously, nobody's driven one yet - but the ELSD is magical, according to magazines of the Stingray...and they've recalibrate MR for this particular setup. Of course, as always, a person can modify his/her own car to keep up...but there's that subtle factor of the driving "feel"...and I have a hunch that it's going to be effortless to drive this car ridiculously fast.


Well, consider that even though they're forged...the wheels are much wider than the standard LT setup, there's additional track coolers, and the brakes are 4-piston Brembos up front standard. Then there's unique some aero components, too (marginal weight).

It all adds up pretty quick.
I missed the part about the additional coolers. That explains it all.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:12 AM   #80
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How much weight at we talking at most 50 pounds c'mon get real! Offer both options how hard is that??
Well if its already gaining 70lbs +/- another 50lbs in comfort items would make a swing of 120lbs plus so thats a big number.
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No problem.
I'm a sucker... if theres a way I can get ambient lighting, and maybe that Bose, i'm for sure in on this!
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I'll be keeping my '16 once it gets here I think... The 1LE is gorgeous, but it's not a practical daily driver for me. Fricken sexy looking car though!
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:17 AM   #83
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I don't think it will be that easy. At least not for the same price. The same was true of last generation's 1LE.

Obviously, nobody's driven one yet - but the ELSD is magical, according to magazines of the Stingray...and they've recalibrate MR for this particular setup. Of course, as always, a person can modify his/her own car to keep up...but there's that subtle factor of the driving "feel"...and I have a hunch that it's going to be effortless to drive this car ridiculously fast.


Well, consider that even though they're forged...the wheels are much wider than the standard LT setup, there's additional track coolers, and the brakes are 4-piston Brembos up front standard. Then there's unique some aero components, too (marginal weight).

It all adds up pretty quick.
Not saying it will be easy....Just that MRC seems like a budget buster for a 1LE package, especially if it's different than the MRC setup available as an option on the SS....Will be interesting to see how prices compare as options available now on an SS with similar ones on a 1LE...better???....in a pre-made 1LE package....Just thinking, minus MRC costs, you can add a lot of other mods.

Definitely a convenience having it already set-up on the 1LE....but DIYing can save money on mods....
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:20 AM   #84
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I watched the videos and that is a really nice looking spoiler and it compliments the overall design angles of the car; fluid. Those wheels for the SS make the difference in the appearance/stance of the car. I already secured financing and my down payment. My issue will be picking out the color. Good times.

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