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I am not a fan of supplemental fuel supply through the intake track as distribution can be a problem, and has the potential for failure when you least expect it. Always opt to put the fuel through the injectors in a DI engine and use good fuel it will always be cheaper than an engine. Ted.
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Dave I'm usually very careful in my wording so I don't over emphasis anything that could cause a misunderstanding of my knowledge. I'm not in the same time zone as JRE or toohighpsi on these motors.
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Why would you call talking about a proven problem that exists in some of these LT1s "scare tactics"? Seems to me that the honest thing is to let our fellow Camaro drivers know about what they might or might not have to deal with if they slap a supercharger onto a stock LT1 motor. We should share the info we now have so they can make a more-informed decision.
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At the end of the day all of us that jump on the mod train take on that added amount of risk of things going wrong! Yes there are a lot of people having great success with boost and the LT1, and I agree it will always come down to the tune.
To the OP, sorry to see it go down that way for you. Hopefully you get up and running soon stronger than before
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A good tune does not guarantee that you could use the car however you want without any chance of trouble. Obviously a good tune gives you a better chance of success, but if there's a mechanical issue in your engine like really tight rings, there's only so far that you could push it.
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I have been adding superchargers to cars and trucks since 1990 knowing all the risk involved. I would never recommend supercharging an engine that is incapable of handling it but we have been very successful at supercharging even the weakest of engines 4.6 2 valve mustang, 5.7 Chrysler Hemi, 2.2 liter cobalt just to name a few. I mentioned in a earlier post about controlling combustion temps which is the primary cause of failure because it leads to ring expansion, piston overheating, uncontrollable detonation, bent valves or failure, melted plugs, etc. You can have the same combustion temp at Idle or wide open throttle as an extreme example. There are many ways to control it but primarily injection timing, AFR and Spark. Then there is exhaust flow, and intercooling. The ability for the cooling system to carry away that heat is one of the major limitations to making reliable power. No one talks about it but, Cooling system technology evolution is why we can make so much power reliably. I think from this you can put the pieces of the puzzle together. Ted.
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Ted is my tuner now but I learned THE HARD WAY that the tune is the make it or break it factor in these applications. Not just a guy that is known for generally being a good tuner but someone who has in-depth experience with our platform.
The original tuner of my car had it too lean and I blew a ring on track. Ended up going with drop-in pistons, a bunch of reliability mods that Ted suggested and now I am much more confident in my build to not blow up on track.
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The stock LT1 engine is running 11.5 compression, if you add forced induction you must lower your compression to 10.3-10.5. I have talked to several people that have this piston problem and none of them have lowered their compression. I placed a .010 spacer between head and block after I did head work, "old school" cylinder compression change. I have not had any issues with my LT1 running a LT4 blower at 10# boost.
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Just finished another JRE Super Street Brawler package on 93 octane.
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