07-01-2021, 11:36 AM | #99 | |
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Sheesh that’s a lot of oil to burn in 3 weeks, unless your putting thousands of miles on in 3 weeks.
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07-01-2021, 12:18 PM | #100 |
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07-01-2021, 12:51 PM | #101 |
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Yep, a light zero-weight oil, +-75 redline shifts/week, ambient temps 70-90F, higher engine and piston temps, boost increase from 9 to 14psi. It all adds up to greater oil consumption, which is no biggie. Peanuts in the grand scheme of things.
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OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
07-01-2021, 02:15 PM | #102 | |
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With a properly built engine, I dont think temps should be unusually high. When I run my ZLE on track for several days in a row, 90-100 F temps in CA, it burns zero oil. 911 Turbo runs up to 25+ PSI boost making big power, and they don't run hot or burn oil. That kind of oil consumption is a sign you may not be making power efficiently. Combustion is escaping past rings, instead of pushing the pistons. Did the Hennessey ppl tell you it's normal for all their builds? |
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07-01-2021, 02:51 PM | #103 |
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It's not a Hennessy issue lol
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
07-01-2021, 03:00 PM | #104 |
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Do you circuit track this ZLE a lot? If yes can you share your experience with tracking on cool to warm days?
I'm considering mods in the future and curious how highly modded ZLEs perform in terms of engine and oil temps during HPDE sessions on warm days. |
07-01-2021, 04:01 PM | #105 |
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I just spoke with John over at Hennessy. The HPE850 package does indeed come with excessive oil consumption as part of the package. He says that’s why their HPE850 build comes with a case of free oil. It’s also rated that if you go with the excessive oil consumption option it will increase horsepower by 50rwhp.
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07-01-2021, 04:14 PM | #106 |
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0W-40 is not "light", the "zero" is more of a marketing gimmick - if you look up cold and hot (measured) viscosity, it's significantly higher than 5W-30
You should not be seeing more than 1/2 quart of oil consumption every 5k miles with a healthy engine and street use (I don't) |
07-01-2021, 05:34 PM | #107 |
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I went back and checked my records. It uses a quart every 1000 miles or so at the previously stated levels of performance. Also HPE might use more generous clearances than does Chevrolet. greater clearances can make greater power
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
07-01-2021, 07:50 PM | #108 | |
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What clearances? Hennessy didn’t rebuild your short block, they only touched your top end. No clearances were changed.
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LME 377 LT4 Short Block | Magnuson 2650 80mm upper w/13% lower (9.06) | DSX Lid & Valve Covers | CSP Custom Cam w/32% fuel lobe | CID Heads | NW 103mm TB | Roto Fab Big Gulp | CSP 2" Headers w/Green GESI Gen 2 Cats | Borla 3" Full Cat Back w/ S-Type| Mighty Mouse Wild Catch Can| Custom Holley Low side Fuel system| TooHigh PSI Port Injection w/Holley Controller | Forced Inductions Interchiller w/2 gallon fender tank | TK Performance built 10L90 |
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07-01-2021, 11:08 PM | #109 | |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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0w40 Mobil1 is higher viscosity at low (and high) temps than their 5w30. |
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07-02-2021, 01:24 AM | #110 | |
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Also, as someone else pointed out, you didn't have your short block built so that doesnt apply. With a modern build using state of the art parts and machining techniques, a forged block should be built with tight tolerances using alloys that don't over-expand, and I assume HPE is state of the art--they claim they are. OEM 800+ HP cars like Demon, Bugatti, F 812, Koenigsegg etc dont burn oil due to loose piston tolerances. Neither should an HPE ZL1. |
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07-02-2021, 07:51 AM | #111 | |
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I mean, my new parts such as valves, valve stem guides/seals aren't oiled so they're not relevant, and of course, CAP just did new FII SC/head spacers but there's no oil on or near them, so no worries, and then there's Back to OP's question: If it's a garage queen, as so many here are, that you putt-around in on weekends at or below the speed limit, it shouldn't use any oil between changes. On the other hand, if it's been modified and spends a lot of time at red line, it will likely use oil. Oh, and a lot of fuel too.
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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07-02-2021, 08:02 AM | #112 |
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Yea, I had forgotten that CAP filled it with 5W30, but I've got a garage shelf full of 0W40 ESP, so I'm using that when it runs low. Not sure I'll ever use up the whole case.
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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