03-30-2020, 07:40 AM | #1 |
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Tsp Stage 3 cam
Im down south in texas and I have e85, headers, cai and also getting a stage 3 cam from texas speed. What gains should I expect? Im at 450rwhp
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03-30-2020, 07:46 AM | #2 |
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If you don't plan on doing heads with the cam, get a smaller cam
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03-30-2020, 07:47 AM | #3 |
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03-30-2020, 08:04 AM | #4 |
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that 5.6 is theoretical due to where the elevation that man is at.. it's still a LT1 engine.
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03-30-2020, 08:59 AM | #5 |
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03-30-2020, 09:27 AM | #6 |
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Call Texas Speed. Tell them your goals and mods, they will help you pick the right cam for your car. Don't be like that guy in the link and pick a big cam without the proper complimenting parts.
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03-30-2020, 02:29 PM | #7 | |
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AFE CAI 87mm Katech Ported TB Ported MSD Manifold TSP Stage 3 cam /PRC Dual springs/DOD delete/C5R timing chain/Trunion upgrade etc ARH LT headers When I asked everywhere before buying stuff all people said heads were a waste of money, only good for 15 WHP for $1200 Unlike all of you guys I did the job myself (cam AND tuning) so I learned a lot , though I already tuned myself the car when I was FBO, car making 458WHP/420WTQ on a Mustang dyno, so not bad at all (dynojets bump torque readings a lot). Guys showing 530whp at 6000rpm and 480 WTQ is BS from dynojet dynos, especially on Auto cars which read a lot lower. Put them on a Mustang dyno and you'll see 5-10% less. 530WHP is achievable on a Mustang dyno with this config but at 6500-6800 rpm with an MSD, not stock IM as I see in another thread I ordered yesterday ported heads from TSP, I'll see what it does, but part of my torque problem in the 3300-4000 range lies in the MSD manifold since putting OEM manifold decrease by 50% the observed torque loss. |
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03-30-2020, 08:05 PM | #8 |
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The stock head flows less at lifts above .550. So what is the point of a rapid profile cam and .640 up lift? The cam is large probably work better with 12.25 cr and E50 or 93. A smaller cam with less lift will produce the same hp from 6000 up, but WAY more torque midrange.
Also, there is NOTHiNG in the valve train that can take the cam IMO. So welcome to pushrods, trunion, c5r chain,jhoneson lifter, pushrod length checker, springs shims, spring height checker, springs (change every 20k miles), valve guide wear, valve / seat refacing, have the studs crack into the intake ports on ported heads, hope you don’t have valve bounce or the stock hollow intake head will fall into the chamber, better lock the cam gear. But what do I know?
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03-30-2020, 08:17 PM | #9 |
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Or dependability. A .600 lift cam motion cam could have double the longevity on way less expensive parts. IMO a Cam Motion cam .600 lift and all the $$$ parts is the only combination that can offer 100k miles, I’ll let you all know if it does not.
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03-30-2020, 10:44 PM | #10 |
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I agree with has been previously mentioned. I would rather run a lower lift cam and give up a few HP in exchange for better reliability and longer spring life with less exotic components. Imo stock rocker arms, LS7 lifters, and dual springs don't belong in a combo with a .640 lift cam. Most of these vendors are selling cam kits that might last 20k miles before something(s) will need repaired or replaced...lifter, valve spring, valve guide.
Stock rockers and LS7 lifter combo imo should stay under .600 lift with a mild ramp lobe. Cam motion will put together a good reliable package...shoot them a call.
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03-31-2020, 06:57 AM | #11 |
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I am guessing this is on the a8?
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03-31-2020, 01:41 PM | #12 |
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04-01-2020, 12:36 AM | #13 | |
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I don't know anyone, at least on this forum or fb groups, claiming 530hp out of a fbo car. Except Prays record m6 car which made 530 but also ran a 10.3 backing up that hp number... and that was definately a max effort fbo car, shy or a cam or heads.
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04-01-2020, 11:01 AM | #14 | |
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From what I saw, Mustang dynos are very repeatable, several pulls with same tune were showing exactly same numbers... When I was talking 530WHP at 6000 rpm this was with cam and heads on an A8, without MSD and TB. No way. 490-500whp max. |
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