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Old 05-14-2021, 11:36 AM   #561
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Yeah, i've seen that, it's an interesting video. But i'm still left with wondering how the tesla performs after a few laps when the battery reaches a thermal steady state. I've read there are varying degrees of degraded performance, for some it's not that noticeable, and others it's really it a big deal. I'm guessing it's track dependent.

I like the lightning lap because it's a long track, and because the drivers do several laps to get a time. It's at least getting closer to encountering problems a car might encounter during a track day session.

At a track event early this month, there was an on track incident that cut our session short. They scheduled our makeup session just following the next session. Our cars didn't have as much time to cool, and being it was in the upper 80's, cars started dropping like flies because of the heat, but not the Camaro

I have not tracked myself but what I have heard is that you do notice a bit of a decrease in performance after a few laps as the battery heats up but it levels off and stays pretty consistent the remainder of the session.

Here is what Tesla is doing and I assume GM and others will have similar strategies. Overclocking the AC compressor to help cool the battery is an interesting method.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/how-track-mode-works

https://www.tesla.com/support/track-mode
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:49 AM   #562
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Obviously, heavy AC and heating requirements are going to come out of range.
Heating is a big drain, to the point that Tesla has now included a heat pump in the Model 3 and Model Y now. AC usage actually has minimal impact. Another surprise for first time EV owners is that there is a 12v accessories battery in Tesla EVs in addition to the main battery. The 12V is used for the audio systems, windows, etc. like an ICE based vehicle. When the car is "sleeping" so to speak, if the 12v battery needs charging the car wakes up and transfers energy from the main battery to the 12v accessory battery.
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Old 05-15-2021, 07:12 PM   #563
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electri...e-cyberattack/
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Old 05-15-2021, 07:27 PM   #564
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wonder what the same folks who were "interviewed" here will say next time when an electric utility gets hacked instead.
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Good point but gas stations need electricity to pump gas. However, after all the hurricanes here in Florida many gas stations have installed generators now.
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Old 05-15-2021, 09:18 PM   #566
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wonder what the same folks who were "interviewed" here will say next time when an electric utility gets hacked instead.
What about the EVs themselves getting hacked and immobilized on a nationwide scale? They are all computer/tech over the air connected and software dependent...Financial systems of a pipeline company is child's play for a hacker....

For sure the replies will be..."Oh, no. That's just not possible..."lol
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What about the EVs themselves getting hacked and immobilized on a nationwide scale? They are all computer/tech over the air connected and software dependent...Financial systems of a pipeline company is child's play for a hacker....

For sure the replies will be..."Oh, no. That's just not possible..."lol

Or an EMP attack. granted all modern cars would be useless then, but electric would be useless even longer due to needing charging stations.
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Yep EVs are no different than any other car on the road n this regard.

Now if you want to hack a car with Level 2 autonomous features and drive the car around…..still the same as the CT6 with Super Cruise is more advanced than Tesla.

Hacking a cars computer is the same for an ICE and EV.
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Question about a possible electric Camaro. My apologies if this was already covered and I didn't see it.

I could've ordered an automatic in my car to be faster but instead, I got a stick just because they are more fun to drive IMO. So, along those same lines, would it ever be a possibility that they would sell a Camaro that is normally AWD for the launches but could be switched into RWD only just to have a more spirited driving experience? I can't see this being anything else but simple programming and it seems like it would go a long way to satisfy the "EVs have no soul" crowd.

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Looks like Ford is leaving it up to Consumers to decide the fate of the ICE Mustang especially the V8 Mustang.





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Looks like Ford is leaving it up to Consumers to decide the fate of the ICE Mustang especially the V8 Mustang.





https://carbuzz.com/news/ford-mustan...2645_229089685
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the EV mustang looks nothing like a mustang should.might as well drive a fricken prius...
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Question about a possible electric Camaro. My apologies if this was already covered and I didn't see it.

I could've ordered an automatic in my car to be faster but instead, I got a stick just because they are more fun to drive IMO. So, along those same lines, would it ever be a possibility that they would sell a Camaro that is normally AWD for the launches but could be switched into RWD only just to have a more spirited driving experience? I can't see this being anything else but simple programming and it seems like it would go a long way to satisfy the "EVs have no soul" crowd.

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I agree. I am hopeful GM will enable a lot of customization if they offer a performance EV. In the Tesla Model 3 Performance you can set the front and rear bias, stability control and level of regenerative braking so I would hope that GM would be able to the same and more. One thing you can't do in the Tesla (without a 3rd party tool) is fully disable traction control. It is kind of crazy in a EV with instant torque so it is probably a good idea of Tesla.

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Question about a possible electric Camaro. My apologies if this was already covered and I didn't see it.

I could've ordered an automatic in my car to be faster but instead, I got a stick just because they are more fun to drive IMO. So, along those same lines, would it ever be a possibility that they would sell a Camaro that is normally AWD for the launches but could be switched into RWD only just to have a more spirited driving experience? I can't see this being anything else but simple programming and it seems like it would go a long way to satisfy the "EVs have no soul" crowd.

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