[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by CHASLT1

Now they get paid to sit home and have their rent paid for also.

Isn’t some of that going away soon? I read that they aren’t extending the UI boost. That’ll trigger some action, right?

[ckt227]

That's true. Just bought a Tahoe RST. It was on the window sticker listed something like AFM Chip Delete with a $50 credit off the price.

[CHASLT1]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Isn’t some of that going away soon? I read that they aren’t extending the UI boost. That’ll trigger some action, right?

I guess sometime down the road it will go away.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by ckt227

That's true. Just bought a Tahoe RST. It was on the window sticker listed something like AFM Chip Delete with a $50 credit off the price.

Right. And no disclosure about how much more fuel the vehicle will use without AFM compared to if it were installed.

When I had bought a 2016 Traverse, because GM overstated the MPG by 1MPG, I got a $1500 pre-paid Visa card as part of a class action settlement. To make up for 1MPG. But, now you get $50?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by ember1205

Right. And no disclosure about how much more fuel the vehicle will use without AFM compared to if it were installed.

When I had bought a 2016 Traverse, because GM overstated the MPG by 1MPG, I got a $1500 pre-paid Visa card as part of a class action settlement. To make up for 1MPG. But, now you get $50?

Difference is he was told. You got paid because you weren't.

And with the number of people on this site that 1) hate and rag on AFM and 2) eliminate it with a recalibration or 3) plug in the OBDII device to turn it off I would think this missing chip is a blessing.

But likely a 1 mpg reduction in EPA highway.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by ZZorro

My post was about the ineptitude and laziness of American workers. I was told by my Ford dealer that the shipping problem was a factory shipment problem so I’m not sure what exactly it is your talking about. No trucks used to ship means no shipping - no matter who owns them if the job is move cars and no one can move them they don’t move -

In the background of this is the well prior to Covid driver shortage. The current situation has just made it a lot worse.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Difference is he was told. You got paid because you weren't.

And with the number of people on this site that 1) hate and rag on AFM and 2) eliminate it with a recalibration or 3) plug in the OBDII device to turn it off I would think this missing chip is a blessing.

But likely a 1 mpg reduction in EPA highway.

The "number" of people on this site that remove AFM is but a drop in the bucket in the overall number - a very small percentage of total ownership.

The other part you've glossed over is ACTUAL financial impact of that being missing... I, and every other class action member, received $1500. That was -AFTER- the lawyers were paid. How much would the real difference have been?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by ember1205

The "number" of people on this site that remove AFM is but a drop in the bucket in the overall number - a very small percentage of total ownership.

The other part you've glossed over is ACTUAL financial impact of that being missing... I, and every other class action member, received $1500. That was -AFTER- the lawyers were paid. How much would the real difference have been?

Oh you are preaching to the choir on the actual number of Camaro owners that actually recalibrate. It's a fraction.

And in your case, $1500 to cover a 1 mpg difference is pretty generous. 1 mpg over 100,000 miles (20 vs 19 as an example) is about 260 gallons or $780 over that 100,000 miles. And yes, lawyers got PAYYYYYYYYYD. There are people whose job is to look for class action status. I know of one lawyer that just got that one huge payday and never worked a day again. But a different discussion.

Again, regardless of the mpg difference it was clearly stated that AFM is NOT on the vehicle the poster purchased. Unlike you, it was easily in the purchase decision.

But to further the point, my SS did not have AFM (wonderful btw) but I had to pay the GG tax on the automatic. GM purposely put AFM on the Camaro to avoid the GG tax. Trucks, I believe, are exempt from that. That alone makes it easier to sell the truck without the module. So GM to sell a Camaro without that module would have more ramifications tax wise. And it's pretty much 1 mpg or on the test. Real world?

[ZZorro]

You guys won’t like this 😡😡😡

https://youtu.be/YOu1eB7i-rk

[90503]

Aren't cars sold with missing chips for whatever function promised/required to come back to the dealership and have them installed once they become available again?

Surprised they allow sales of cars without these fuel saver features. All the complexity and engineering put into a AFM system that is just dismissed out of hand. Too bad the buyer can't also realize a price savings from AFM and Start/Stop not being functional...(Two features no-one would have paid extra for as an option)...Now, oh well, they just don't work...lol

What happens at a smog-check if it shows up that these are dis-abled? If the owner tunes it out on his own...violation!...No chip from the factory...no worries....lol

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by ZZorro

You guys won’t like this 😡😡😡

https://youtu.be/YOu1eB7i-rk

More chevy bs. While you can go to another and easily pick up a mustang or Challenger without the bs.

Everyone needs to face it that chevy doesn't care about the Camaro and it doesn't get high priority.

They'd rather pump put a bunch of equinox and Silverados and ship them first.

[ZZorro]

Well yeah - because they sell every soccer Mom wants an SUV and every shit kicker wants a PU truck - and every old white guy with a small penis wants a Corvette - ��

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by ZZorro

You guys won’t like this 😡😡😡

https://youtu.be/YOu1eB7i-rk

He's crying about his car "sitting on a lot" (because Chevy is waiting on chips to complete the build), but he'd be crying just as loud if Chevy went ahead and delivered the car with missing features.

Originally Posted by 90503

Aren't cars sold with missing chips for whatever function promised/required to come back to the dealership and have them installed once they become available again?

No. That's been discussed. The UAW would have a fit and walk in it if the dealerships were allowed to participate in the build by installing pieces that were never present from the factory...

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

More chevy bs. While you can go to another and easily pick up a mustang or Challenger without the bs.

Everyone needs to face it that chevy doesn't care about the Camaro and it doesn't get high priority.

They'd rather pump put a bunch of equinox and Silverados and ship them first.

Let's see... GM is delivering Silverado's, Sierra's, Tahoe's, Yukon's, and pretty much every other "everyday" vehicle with missing features but the Corvette, Camaro, and the Blackwings are waiting until they are fully built. GM knows damned well that people that are buying their performance cars won't settle for missing features. All of their performance cars combined don't sell at the volume of the Truck and SUV product that they push out.

[s2mikey]

Ugh - I have to stop reading these threads, lol. I got my order in 3 days ago for a 2022 1LT and was told by my long-time sales guy at my local dealer to expect an early/mid spring of 2022 delivery. I hope thats realistic since being in upstate, NY I dont need or care to have the car over the winter. It would be parked/stored anyways! But still..... I hope I dont get a delivery date of like END of summer 2022... that'll ruin my summer. :(