Looking for recommendations - Camera & in-car mount

RamAir02 · 05-20-2021, 08:05 AM

Loving the PDR, but I'd also like to capture in-car video for additional analysis. Looking to capture the steering wheel and view out of the windshield. Is there a particular mount most people are using? Is headrest mount the best location?

I've also read good things about the GoPros (obviously) and the Garmin Ultra 30. Any recommendations between the two or other options to consider?

Lastly, I've seen some videos of in-car video inset on the PDR video. What software is this done with and is it difficult to sync up the two videos? Given the wind noise from the PDR, is it preferred to use audio from the action cam? External mic or no? It so, what placement?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to get my setup right for the next track event. Thanks in advance.

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MatthewAMEL · 05-20-2021, 08:30 AM

I had a similar issue a few years ago.

Discovered the Tackform products. They are awesome.

https://www.tackform.com/collections...-action-camera

I have the arm on my passenger headrest. Just get their GoPro mount instead of the phone mount.

It's really easy to get on/off (the base stays attached to the head rest).

As for mixing in the video, I use PowerDirector. There was a learning curve, but they have great tutorials and there are lots of YouTube videos showing you exactly how to sync up multiple video/audio streams.

https://youtu.be/3d5x5Mk3uqI

Kmeleon · 05-20-2021, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

I had a similar issue a few years ago.

Discovered the Tackform products. They are awesome.

https://www.tackform.com/collections...-action-camera

I have the arm on my passenger headrest. Just get their GoPro mount instead of the phone mount.

It's really easy to get on/off (the base stays attached to the head rest).

As for mixing in the video, I use PowerDirector. There was a learning curve, but they have great tutorials and there are lots of YouTube videos showing you exactly how to sync up multiple video/audio streams.

https://youtu.be/3d5x5Mk3uqI

+1 on the tackform headrest mount. It's great paired with a go pro. Run an external mic through the trunk and tape to your license plate and pick up the exhaust note as a bonus. Great track videos!

kropscamaro16 · 05-20-2021, 10:32 AM

i have a goprohero9 my gf got me for xmas i use it on the outside quarter window facing forward so i can see the track and see my hands on the wheel...once i get my cage in ill probably buy a cage mount to get a better view/angle

joekd · 05-20-2021, 11:35 AM

I only drag race but have used both helmet mount and headrest mounts for my gopro 7 and prefer the headrest mount, allows me to see what I am doing as well as out the windshield

TWG1 · 05-20-2021, 02:31 PM

I second the Tackform, quality product. I’d stay away from GoPro if there are other options. Easily the most buggy $400 junk on the market. Batteries always dead, even if charged night before, no real software support (Quik only supports 30 second clips), constant freezes requiring you to pull battery. Also stabilization algorithm is useless for Autocross, the yaw axis ‘floats’ as if your camera mount is loose.

I’ve stopped using GP simply because it aggravates me too much and ruins my track days experience. FYI, I’m using a Hero 8 with latest firmware.

Vtor_ZL1 · 05-20-2021, 03:11 PM

Mounts: Panavise.. the oroginal, still the best

Camera - too many options, I use Garmin Ultra 30 w OBD2 dongle for RPM, MPH, etc.

weemus · 05-20-2021, 07:44 PM

I have the Tackform seat headrest mount as well.

MatthewAMEL · 05-20-2021, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TWG1

I second the Tackform, quality product. I’d stay away from GoPro if there are other options. Easily the most buggy $400 junk on the market. Batteries always dead, even if charged night before, no real software support (Quik only supports 30 second clips), constant freezes requiring you to pull battery. Also stabilization algorithm is useless for Autocross, the yaw axis ‘floats’ as if your camera mount is loose.

I’ve stopped using GP simply because it aggravates me too much and ruins my track days experience. FYI, I’m using a Hero 8 with latest firmware.

I'm so happy to hear you say that about GoPro. I have come to loathe mine for all of the reasons you state.

Not to mention that half the time it'll record part of a session and then suddenly, the audio will continue, but the video is frozen.

Missed video of my only session at Daytona under the lights due to that stupid thing.

RamAir02 · 05-20-2021, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Sounds like the tackform headrest mount is most popular, so I'll pick that up.

If not GoPro for the action cam, what do you all recommend? While I think I'd love a SmartyCam, I'm not ready to spend that much.

Kmeleon · 05-21-2021, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

I'm so happy to hear you say that about GoPro. I have come to loathe mine for all of the reasons you state.

Not to mention that half the time it'll record part of a session and then suddenly, the audio will continue, but the video is frozen.

Missed video of my only session at Daytona under the lights due to that stupid thing.

Mine just did the same thing withe freezing mid session. It's never done that before, I'm going to try formatting the SD card after each track day. Disappointing.

ICTsccaCamaro · 05-21-2021, 09:02 AM

I am adding a Gopro looking at myself over my PDR footage so I can see how much I am flopping around in car

https://youtu.be/l_yvNAsZiPY

funked1 · 05-21-2021, 03:18 PM

I dislike the Tackform headrest solution. The product itself is fine. The Recaro headrest posts are just too floppy. So the camera moves around a lot. If anyone would like to buy my gently used Tackform mount, hit me up on PM.

Really happy with this mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002K8Q0EU

05-20-2021, 08:05 AM	#1
RamAir02 Shadow Gray '19 ZLE M6 Drives: '19 ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,437 View My Garage	Looking for recommendations - Camera & in-car mount Loving the PDR, but I'd also like to capture in-car video for additional analysis. Looking to capture the steering wheel and view out of the windshield. Is there a particular mount most people are using? Is headrest mount the best location? I've also read good things about the GoPros (obviously) and the Garmin Ultra 30. Any recommendations between the two or other options to consider? Lastly, I've seen some videos of in-car video inset on the PDR video. What software is this done with and is it difficult to sync up the two videos? Given the wind noise from the PDR, is it preferred to use audio from the action cam? External mic or no? It so, what placement? Sorry for all the questions. Just want to get my setup right for the next track event. Thanks in advance. Sent from my IN2025 using Tapatalk __________________ 2019 ZL1 1LE \| M6 \| SGM \| PDR \| CF Dash \| Nav \| Wheel Locks PPF \| Paint Correction \| ZL1 Addons Rock Guards \| ZL1 Addons Lift Pads \| ZL1 Addons Feather Lite Tow Hook \| JWM Smoked Sidemarkers \| Wildhammer Smoked Rear Reflectors \| JWM License Plate LEDs \| RotoFab CAI \| ADM IC Reservoir v2 \| BC Forged RZ05 \| SPL Toe Arms \| BW Brake Deflectors \| CMS Roll Bar \| Schroth Profi II ASM Harnesses . Sold: '99 Trans Am (bolt-ons & cam) \| '00 WS6 (bolt-ons, heads, cam, 12 bolt) \| '05 CTS-V (bolt-ons, short throw) \| '10 SS/RS M6 (short throw, CAI, coilovers, LTs, catback, JRE tune) \| '01 WS6 YouTube

05-20-2021, 08:30 AM	#2
MatthewAMEL Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,616	I had a similar issue a few years ago. Discovered the Tackform products. They are awesome. https://www.tackform.com/collections...-action-camera I have the arm on my passenger headrest. Just get their GoPro mount instead of the phone mount. It's really easy to get on/off (the base stays attached to the head rest). As for mixing in the video, I use PowerDirector. There was a learning curve, but they have great tutorials and there are lots of YouTube videos showing you exactly how to sync up multiple video/audio streams. https://youtu.be/3d5x5Mk3uqI __________________ 2017 HBM SS 1LE Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6

05-20-2021, 10:32 AM	#4
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,811	i have a goprohero9 my gf got me for xmas i use it on the outside quarter window facing forward so i can see the track and see my hands on the wheel...once i get my cage in ill probably buy a cage mount to get a better view/angle __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

05-20-2021, 11:35 AM	#5
joekd Drives: 2018 Camaro SS vert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: CT Posts: 449	I only drag race but have used both helmet mount and headrest mounts for my gopro 7 and prefer the headrest mount, allows me to see what I am doing as well as out the windshield __________________

05-20-2021, 02:31 PM	#6
TWG1 TWG1 Drives: 2019 Camaro ZLE Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: PENSACOLA, FL Posts: 179	I second the Tackform, quality product. I’d stay away from GoPro if there are other options. Easily the most buggy $400 junk on the market. Batteries always dead, even if charged night before, no real software support (Quik only supports 30 second clips), constant freezes requiring you to pull battery. Also stabilization algorithm is useless for Autocross, the yaw axis ‘floats’ as if your camera mount is loose. I’ve stopped using GP simply because it aggravates me too much and ruins my track days experience. FYI, I’m using a Hero 8 with latest firmware. __________________ 2019 ZLE M6 2019 ZL1 A10 (Sold) 1967 Jaguar XKE Series 1 Roadster 2021 F150 Powerboost (on order)

05-20-2021, 03:11 PM	#7
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,770	Mounts: Panavise.. the oroginal, still the best Camera - too many options, I use Garmin Ultra 30 w OBD2 dongle for RPM, MPH, etc. __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

05-20-2021, 07:44 PM	#8
weemus Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 167 View My Garage	I have the Tackform seat headrest mount as well.

05-20-2021, 09:55 PM	#10
RamAir02 Shadow Gray '19 ZLE M6 Drives: '19 ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,437 View My Garage	Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Sounds like the tackform headrest mount is most popular, so I'll pick that up. If not GoPro for the action cam, what do you all recommend? While I think I'd love a SmartyCam, I'm not ready to spend that much. __________________ 2019 ZL1 1LE \| M6 \| SGM \| PDR \| CF Dash \| Nav \| Wheel Locks PPF \| Paint Correction \| ZL1 Addons Rock Guards \| ZL1 Addons Lift Pads \| ZL1 Addons Feather Lite Tow Hook \| JWM Smoked Sidemarkers \| Wildhammer Smoked Rear Reflectors \| JWM License Plate LEDs \| RotoFab CAI \| ADM IC Reservoir v2 \| BC Forged RZ05 \| SPL Toe Arms \| BW Brake Deflectors \| CMS Roll Bar \| Schroth Profi II ASM Harnesses . Sold: '99 Trans Am (bolt-ons & cam) \| '00 WS6 (bolt-ons, heads, cam, 12 bolt) \| '05 CTS-V (bolt-ons, short throw) \| '10 SS/RS M6 (short throw, CAI, coilovers, LTs, catback, JRE tune) \| '01 WS6 YouTube

05-21-2021, 09:02 AM	#12
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	I am adding a Gopro looking at myself over my PDR footage so I can see how much I am flopping around in car https://youtu.be/l_yvNAsZiPY __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap

05-21-2021, 03:18 PM	#13
funked1 Drives: '23 Hyundai Kona N, '24 VW GTI Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 403	I dislike the Tackform headrest solution. The product itself is fine. The Recaro headrest posts are just too floppy. So the camera moves around a lot. If anyone would like to buy my gently used Tackform mount, hit me up on PM. Really happy with this mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002K8Q0EU

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