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Old 01-10-2021, 03:06 PM   #57
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The Constitution is broken.
The Constitution isn't "broken". It is a set of rules that certain people/groups in our society no longer wish to follow because it gets in the way of their quest for money, power and control of the citizens.

It has worked just fine for 150+ years.
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Old 01-10-2021, 03:10 PM   #58
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You just described my definition of broken. And I don't consider it a singular time & event issue.
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Old 01-10-2021, 03:21 PM   #59
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I am sorry but electric cars are a silly comparison to the undermining of our government. Get used to it. Electric power is part of the plan to save our world from us.
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Old 01-10-2021, 03:45 PM   #60
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...Car emissions are not much compared to what airplanes or cruise ships put out, and good luck electrifying those...

I read an article this morning about a plane which could run on the friction energy of flight. Just needed batteries for take off and landing and should be able to recharge the batteries while in flight.



https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/363021


No idea how quickly (if ever) it will get into mass production.


If workable, I wonder if the process could be used on cars too?
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:23 PM   #61
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Fraxum & UnknownJinX,

Common sense tells you planes, modern shipping, many industries, and most plastic consumer products can't ditch fuel use.

More importantly, western societies are littered with bad-faith actors. And there really isn't an institution that hasn't been scandalized from boot-licking to a disingenuous elite claiming a desire to save the world (where OEM's EV begging for banker capital fits), or a fake opposition good-cop act. The Constitution is broken.
I am not really going into the political aspect of it. I am just saying that it could work for some people while it doesn't work for others. For me, it just comes down to the cost of purchasing and insuring another vehicle vs. the fuel and maintenance savings. Just a simple cost problem, nothing to do with environmentalism and politics. That's something we can all connect with.

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I read an article this morning about a plane which could run on the friction energy of flight. Just needed batteries for take off and landing and should be able to recharge the batteries while in flight.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/363021

No idea how quickly (if ever) it will get into mass production.

If workable, I wonder if the process could be used on cars too?
I am no master of thermodynamics, but the concept doesn't sound good to me.

While the nanogenerator itself isn't BS, it seems like the general concepts violate the law of thermodynamics.

If it runs on friction, then it runs on heat. That's what friction generates. But converting heat to pretty much any other kind of energy(mechanical, electrical, etc.) can't be very efficient due to thermodynamic laws. So at best, you recover a bit of loss from that friction and turn it into useful electrical energy, but you won't be able to sustain the cruising from just that.

There are lots of environmentalist ideas that sound good on paper but just end up as intentional or unintentional fraud. Not everyone has a basic understanding of thermodynamics or engineering, or we won't have stupid ideas like solar roadways or the Hyperloop.
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:39 PM   #62
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Emblem is just kinda meh to me. Could be better could be worse. I'm just hoping they keep the Camaro alive even if it has to have some sort of electrification added to it.
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Fraxum seems to think a forum full of V8 powered muscle car owners are going to happily tap dance to his utopian future of electric bliss while we stop on the way for a Prius
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Old 01-10-2021, 06:00 PM   #64
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Old 01-10-2021, 06:08 PM   #65
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It isn't just the "cards dealt" to GM.
Barra and Reuss ran to the whitehouse back in '16 to get Trump to mandate evs.

They want to burn down their ice past for what they think is a profitable ev future.
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Old 01-10-2021, 07:14 PM   #66
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Anyone still remember when this used to be on every seat belt button?

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Old 01-10-2021, 07:53 PM   #67
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Anyone still remember when this used to be on every seat belt button?

I'm pretty sure my '85 Delta 88 has those.
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Old 01-10-2021, 07:55 PM   #68
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Anyone still remember when this used to be on every seat belt button?


Ha! That's nothing! Remember when it actually meant excellence!?!


The new fancy Girly Men logo just needs a purse.
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Old 01-10-2021, 08:10 PM   #69
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Anyone still remember when this used to be on every seat belt button?

Yes. There’s no reason for GM to change this logo. It projects confidence, strength, leadership. Simple and direct, no nonsense or hidden innuendo or meaning.
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Old 01-10-2021, 08:24 PM   #70
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Anyone still remember when this used to be on every seat belt button?

Yes. I rode in and drove plenty of cars that had it.
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