[Cgocifer]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

If anything, it will only serve to extend the life of the S550. Ford sells WAY too many Mustangs to just stop selling them.

There is an article over at the mustang forum. Apparently, the mustang doesn't fit the new direction Ford plans to go because unlike the Camaro, the mustang platform is pretty much stand alone. Not cost effective. Ford intends to go electric, hybrid, and small engines. They may lay off 10000 engineers to be more online with other car manufacturers hence the need to kill the lesser volume mustang to concentrate on more Suvs and family sedans.

Didn't mean to derail the discussion, but if Camaro sales don't pick up value/profit margins don't support the case for the camaro, just wondering if GM may kill it again. :-/ time will tell I guess.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

The guy who traded that in took a spanking ouchie. I'd be comfortable paying that for an 18' before the first oil change, you wouldnt get hurt with that. Cant tell if that has PDR or not

No PDR.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

There is an article over at the mustang forum. Apparently, the mustang doesn't fit the new direction Ford plans to go because unlike the Camaro, the mustang platform is pretty much stand alone. Not cost effective. Ford intends to go electric, hybrid, and small engines. They may lay off 10000 engineers to be more online with other car manufacturers hence the need to kill the lesser volume mustang to concentrate on more Suvs and family sedans.

Didn't mean to derail the discussion, but if Camaro sales don't pick up value/profit margins don't support the case for the camaro, just wondering if GM may kill it again. :-/ time will tell I guess.

Yeah, it is reason to pay attention at least. Hasn't the Camaro outsold the the last 2 months straight?

I bet the margin on the Camaro is pretty good compared to the Mustang, due to cost sharing across platforms.

Demand for these cars has not gone down, the auto industry is just dealing with a gross over supply of used cars. I think the profit is there on new car sales.

Would be great if it didnt impact unique cars like the 1LE, but I doubt that will be the case.

[Maximus SS]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

No PDR.

Is there an easy way to tell when its not spelled out?

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

Is there an easy way to tell when its not spelled out?

I think all you can do is a VIN look up.

[Maximus SS]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

I think all you can do is a VIN look up.

Ill look for a better vin tool, the random ones are as bad as the dealer description

[Bad Anvil Garage]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

Is there an easy way to tell when its not spelled out?

The screen icon for PDR on the main menu won't be there.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

Is there an easy way to tell when its not spelled out?

Originally Posted by Bad Anvil Garage

The screen icon for PDR on the main menu won't be there.

I look for the icon on the infotainment screen, and if that's not shown I also look for the SD card panel on the lower dash by the drivers left knee.

You can see it on the dash above the dead pedal.

[Maximus SS]

Awesome thank you!! That clears it up for me.

What is "projection" icon for?

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

Awesome thank you!! That clears it up for me.

What is "projection" icon for?

Wondered that myself.

[Iroc_Z28]

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

Awesome thank you!! That clears it up for me.

What is "projection" icon for?

That is for Apple car play/ Android auto. When you connect your phone via the usb port in the center armrest, that symbol will become apple car play for iphones, and Android auto for android smartphones. It shows projection when no device is connected

[Cgocifer]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Yeah, it is reason to pay attention at least. Hasn't the Camaro outsold the the last 2 months straight?

I bet the margin on the Camaro is pretty good compared to the Mustang, due to cost sharing across platforms.

Demand for these cars has not gone down, the auto industry is just dealing with a gross over supply of used cars. I think the profit is there on new car sales.

Would be great if it didnt impact unique cars like the 1LE, but I doubt that will be the case.

I think the Camaro did have higher sales recently but part if that is due to folks waiting for the 2018s to hit the market. 2018 mustang is significantly updated compared to the 2017s.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

'18 w/1200 miles
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=CAM

Originally Posted by Maximus SS

The guy who traded that in took a spanking ouchie. I'd be comfortable paying that for an 18' before the first oil change, you wouldnt get hurt with that. Cant tell if that has PDR or not

Here's how I figured it didn't have PDR for reference.

They don't show the infotainment menu.

But there's no SD slot visible.


And another clue I've noticed.

Cars with PDR generally show a GVWR of 4519, and without PDR is 4517 like shown.

[Maximus SS]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

Here's how I figured it didn't have PDR for reference.

They don't show the infotainment menu.

But there's no SD slot visible.


And another clue I've noticed.

Cars with PDR generally show a GVWR of 4519, and without PDR is 4517 like shown.

Nice catch, and I thought I were hyper detail..


What an odd thing to call usb media lol Fair enough though.