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Old 06-09-2018, 01:25 PM   #15
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SAE uses 77*F, 29.23 in Hg of pressure and 0% humidity

If you are in "better" conditions than above, than your uncorrected will be higher. I feel sorry for your tuner if he has to tune cars on the dyno in higher temps than that. Might want to add a door or a fan or something.
Not many shops in Texas are at 77, I'm at 110 in the garage today and it ain't even that hot yet. Note I said "most". BTW acutaul uncorrected HP is the real HP, not some made up number, so if the car is laying down uncorrected HP, yep, that is real HP.. don't care if it -32 degrees out at the bottom of a mindshaft before a trifecta storm. Glad Dynojet put an end to the STD anyway, and we all know that FI should run with no correction factor at all, ahm HeXXXXXXy.. et al. What was the actual rule of thumb like 1 % max and temp between 60 to 95 degree F to even apply the silly CF.

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Old 06-09-2018, 01:35 PM   #16
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The OP dyno is in STD and let not many shops in Texas are at 77, I'm at 110 in the garage today and it ain't even that hot yer. Not I said "most". BTW acutaul uncorrected HP is the real HP, not some made up number, so if the car is laying down uncorrected HP, yep, that is real HP... Glad Dynojet put an end to the STD anyway, and we all know that FI should run with no correction factor at all, ahm Hennessey...
The OP isnt in texas.... no where near texas.

Turbo cars run better with a load. So that's a mustang dyno, which only displays SAE numbers. Unless it's a dynojet with an eddy current brake, which is a $30,000 option that hardly anyone ever gets.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:59 AM   #17
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Not many shops in Texas are at 77, I'm at 110 in the garage today and it ain't even that hot yet. Note I said "most". BTW acutaul uncorrected HP is the real HP, not some made up number, so if the car is laying down uncorrected HP, yep, that is real HP.. don't care if it -32 degrees out at the bottom of a mindshaft before a trifecta storm. Glad Dynojet put an end to the STD anyway, and we all know that FI should run with no correction factor at all, ahm HeXXXXXXy.. et al. What was the actual rule of thumb like 1 % max and temp between 60 to 95 degree F to even apply the silly CF.

http://www.bigdynodatabase.com/DynoCF.php
My uncorrected numbers for track day back in may posted 702rwhp, where my STD at 5 set me at 691rwhp. The uncorrected was reading the HP spikes on my graph and not a net average number for the car. This tune is a little hot for the street so I don't run it on that often.
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The OP isnt in texas.... no where near texas.

Turbo cars run better with a load. So that's a mustang dyno, which only displays SAE numbers. Unless it's a dynojet with an eddy current brake, which is a $30,000 option that hardly anyone ever gets.
That's what the guy who originally tuned my car used. A dyno jet with the eddy brake. Awesome tuning dyno for sure.
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Good work brother. You have a good support system established and the track numbers show it. You are always on the cutting edge.

Did you say your CF DS was heavier than stock? I am wondering what the U/D and DS are worth on the dyno.
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Good work brother. You have a good support system established and the track numbers show it. You are always on the cutting edge.

Did you say your CF DS was heavier than stock? I am wondering what the U/D and DS are worth on the dyno.
Thanks man

I never weighed them but just holding them in my hands the DSS carbon felt every bit as heavy. Possibly a touch more

I’m glad I got it though. It’s a really nice piece. Especially with some having problems breaking the stocker.

Maybe the 1 piece is a bit more efficient as well? I never seen any gains at the track with it though
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Never seen gains with a DS, even on my 5th gen. 1 Piece is more for strength.
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On my 5th gen I ran a CF DS saw zero gains on the dyno but noticed a solid mph gain. Wen't from 10.72 @127mph H/C the CF DS with bigger converter MS109 fuel to 10.45 at 130mph. DA between both were 600 in difference.
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I am doing the G-Force DS which is 7lbs lighter than stock. Couple that with the U/D pulley that is 3lbs lighter and there has to be some gain from a 10lb loss of rotational mass from the tip of the crank to the diff. It may not show on the dyno but the loss of deflection and mass has to show out at the track.
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Thanks man

I never weighed them but just holding them in my hands the DSS carbon felt every bit as heavy. Possibly a touch more

I’m glad I got it though. It’s a really nice piece. Especially with some having problems breaking the stocker.

Maybe the 1 piece is a bit more efficient as well? I never seen any gains at the track with it though
I put a gForce one piece on my car (M6) and it weighs 7.6lbs less than my stock one did. This was with the adapters on my new shaft and the old rubber ones on my stock shaft. The one piece is much stronger, and in most cases the shafts do not weigh as much. Losing that extra weight is a gain as well. I can say I did not see any gains on the dyne when I put mine on, and marginal (if any) at the track. I may have gained 1 or 2 mph. My times were still in line closely with what I ran before. I put mine on for strength though, didn't expect gains honestly.
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