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03-26-2021, 11:17 AM
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Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
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F1 Guy's Reaction to My 1LE :pout:
My son manages a German company supplying engine parts to Formula 1, MotoGP and others, which causes him to pretty damn snobby when evaluating all other cars including mine. He says there's nothing new or innovative about the ZL1 or LT4, and that V8 engines and superchargers have been around for over 100 years.
However, he readily concedes that when it comes to $/HP our cars are hard to beat (I haven't figured out how to calculate $/hp for an F1 engine). Not surprisingly, he jumped into my car and spent an hour burning up a road course. 
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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03-26-2021, 11:23 AM
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Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL
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Achtung......
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2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles...
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03-26-2021, 11:43 AM
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Drives: 23 ZL1 6speed Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: WI
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I tend to agree with your son's opinion. I don't find there to be anything overly innovative with these cars, but that is also not what the Camaro is about. $/hp ratio... the Camaro competes with the best of them IMO.
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03-26-2021, 11:50 AM
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Drives: 2017 Silverado/2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Jax/Palatka FL
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If the Germans idea of innovative is brittle plastic engine parts. I'll take the out of date American muscle every time.
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03-26-2021, 11:56 AM
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Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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03-26-2021, 12:23 PM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Hyper Blue Metallic Join Date: May 2020
Location: WI
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The only person I care about what they think of my car is me.
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03-26-2021, 12:44 PM
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 Drives: 2017 2SS Manual Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Atlanta GA
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F1 engines cost $10.5 mil (just the engine). Not really in the same class as a Camaro
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-f1...on-their-cars/ |
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03-26-2021, 01:58 PM
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 Drives: LT1 Ordering Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: 702
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LT1 Engine alone not mentioning chasis: Variable valve timing (up to 60 degrees), valve angle + smaller combustion chambers, piston oil squirters, wide block for added crank/block strength, aluminum block. 455 HP/Torque will last 300k miles easy. I get it GM is not the first, I mean honda changed the engine game with variable valve timing and everyone shits on them. Personally I think the push rod design with the innovations above make this more appealing and special. |
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03-26-2021, 02:21 PM
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Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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03-26-2021, 03:27 PM
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03-27-2021, 01:26 AM
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Drives: '23 Hyundai Kona N, '24 VW GTI Join Date: Aug 2019
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03-27-2021, 01:58 AM
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Drives: '21 Wild Cherry ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: WI
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&, by extension, my other half. |
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03-27-2021, 07:22 AM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
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I agree with gtfoxy and jamala00! In my opinion there is no comparison in a street car vs the F1 race cars. Sounds like he has become a snob and should be comparing other race cars to the F1s not street/production cars like our ZL1s. Just smile when he starts talking bad about your ZLE and drive on with a grin on your face.��
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ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.
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03-27-2021, 07:32 AM
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Hail to the King baby!
Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008
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I’d be curious the hear your son tell what is particularly innovative in an M4 ( or any car he believes to be “innovative” ) as a comparison. When it comes down to it the list would be short and would likely be interior features or lighting which is just more money.
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