Faster than SS 1LE?

TrackClub · 06-21-2021, 08:08 AM

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-at-vir-video/

Not exactly sure what tires this Caddy wears, but i think they are S4s? Pretty stout lap given the car's stock specs. I wonder if GM sandbagged its power ratings, as the old ATS V was no match for the Camaro. Just my musings here

ZL1 1LE · 06-21-2021, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-at-vir-video/

Not exactly sure what tires this Caddy wears, but i think they are S4s? Pretty stout lap given the car's stock specs. I wonder if GM sandbagged its power ratings, as the old ATS V was no match for the Camaro. Just my musings here

I'm lucky enough to have received a reservation for one of these. The tires are S4s however, they're not off of the shelf and were designed specifically for this car and are in between an S4 and a Cup 2. Additionally, Bill Wise, who drove the ZL1 1LE at The Ring, was driving the CT4-V Blackwing at VIR.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...ichelin-tires/

FNxR3DNECK · 06-21-2021, 10:17 AM

I want that new version of the PDR!!!

RamAir02 · 06-21-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-at-vir-video/

Not exactly sure what tires this Caddy wears, but i think they are S4s? Pretty stout lap given the car's stock specs. I wonder if GM sandbagged its power ratings, as the old ATS V was no match for the Camaro. Just my musings here

I was really impressed with the Blackwing lap time. Very cool. I wonder what she weighs.

CHerna · 06-21-2021, 10:40 AM

A little birdy told me that GM had engineering ATS-V's running around safely pushing 500 hp

ZL1 1LE · 06-21-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RamAir02

I was really impressed with the Blackwing lap time. Very cool. I wonder what she weighs.

3800 - 3900 lbs

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/05...ghts-revealed/

Redlinez · 06-21-2021, 04:44 PM

I saw that and was like WTF!

TrackClub · 06-21-2021, 06:57 PM

Congrats to "ZL1 1LE" on the reservation! I think if i didn't buy my 20, that's the car i would be getting this year.

As far as performance, watching that vid the car looks super hooked and fast. It does have the new magic Michelin rubber and brand new MR, but also it is heavier (even more so with A10), with almost negligible HP increase over 1LE, less torque and much, much skinnier tires. So, something else must be cooking here. Can't wait for independent dyno results and Laguna times in Randy’s hands. The latter will be the most reliable answer here.

UnknownJinX · 06-21-2021, 07:13 PM

Well, SS 1LE didn't come with 10AT until 2021 MY. As much as I like driving a stick, I think the 10AT would have improved the lap time.

And maybe it's just the improvement they made with Alpha 2 vs. Alpha.

ZL1 1LE · 06-21-2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub

Congrats to "ZL1 1LE" on the reservation! I think if i didn't buy my 20, that's the car i would be getting this year.

As far as performance, watching that vid the car looks super hooked and fast. It does have the new magic Michelin rubber and brand new MR, but also it is heavier (even more so with A10), with almost negligible HP increase over 1LE, less torque and much, much skinnier tires. So, something else must be cooking here. Can't wait for independent dyno results and Laguna times in Randy’s hands. The latter will be the most reliable answer here.

🙏🏼

ZL1 1LE · 06-21-2021, 08:01 PM

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMs-ijW...dium=copy_link

https://youtu.be/xWIH_ncgdnc

TrackClub · 06-21-2021, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlinez

I saw that and was like WTF!

Ditto here. I went to check back the Lightning Laps and was like: whoa! Even just watching that vid the car looks superbly balanced and easy to push imo (based on number and type of corrections made).

Another interesting tid bit for me, is that CT4 V-B will do 0 to 60 in 3.8 secs. That's huge considering its specs, not to mention it is only 0.1 behind its big brother, which has tons more power.

ZL1 1LE · 06-21-2021, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub

Ditto here. I went to check back the Lightning Laps and was like: whoa! Even just watching that vid the car looks superbly balanced and easy to push imo (based on number and type of corrections made).

Another interesting tid bit for me, is that CT4 V-B will do 0 to 60 in 3.8 secs. That's huge considering its specs, not to mention it is only 0.1 behind its big brother, which has tons more power.

It’s rumored that the CT4-V BW will be Cadillac’s best handling car ever. If true, that of course would mean that it out handles it’s big brother. It would probably turn better lap times on more technical tracks that wouldn’t favor big brother’s massive power down long straights as well.

5.M0NSTER · 06-21-2021, 10:02 PM

It will certainly be faster. Next gen chassis tuning, turbo motor with fat torque curve, and a slick auto trans. So yeah, no doubt it will be quicker.

But I doubt it will be more fun. Less noise, less driver involvement, less visceral nature. I'll hold on to the 6 speed manual 1LE for now. Oh, and V8 noises FTW.

06-21-2021, 08:08 AM	#1
TrackClub Drives: 2020 SS 1LE (previous: 2017 SS 1LE) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 5,091	Faster than SS 1LE? https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-at-vir-video/ Not exactly sure what tires this Caddy wears, but i think they are S4s? Pretty stout lap given the car's stock specs. I wonder if GM sandbagged its power ratings, as the old ATS V was no match for the Camaro. Just my musings here

06-21-2021, 10:17 AM	#3
FNxR3DNECK Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 2,474	I want that new version of the PDR!!! __________________ IG: @NC_M1SS1LE

06-21-2021, 10:40 AM	#5
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06-21-2021, 07:13 PM	#9
UnknownJinX Drives: 19 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE Shock Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,947	Well, SS 1LE didn't come with 10AT until 2021 MY. As much as I like driving a stick, I think the 10AT would have improved the lap time. And maybe it's just the improvement they made with Alpha 2 vs. Alpha. __________________ Current: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE M6 Shock GM Performance Intake and that's it, because driver mods before car mods Past: 2009 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 Velocity Red Mica (Sold) 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 2LT M7 Velocity Yellow Tintcoat (Flood totaled)

06-21-2021, 06:57 PM	#8
TrackClub Drives: 2020 SS 1LE (previous: 2017 SS 1LE) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 5,091	Congrats to "ZL1 1LE" on the reservation! I think if i didn't buy my 20, that's the car i would be getting this year. As far as performance, watching that vid the car looks super hooked and fast. It does have the new magic Michelin rubber and brand new MR, but also it is heavier (even more so with A10), with almost negligible HP increase over 1LE, less torque and much, much skinnier tires. So, something else must be cooking here. Can't wait for independent dyno results and Laguna times in Randy’s hands. The latter will be the most reliable answer here.

06-21-2021, 08:01 PM	#11
ZL1 1LE @zle_blackwing Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: S OC Posts: 1,390	https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMs-ijW...dium=copy_link https://youtu.be/xWIH_ncgdnc __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE - Red Hot, Nav, PDR

06-21-2021, 10:02 PM	#14
5.M0NSTER Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Michigan Posts: 434	It will certainly be faster. Next gen chassis tuning, turbo motor with fat torque curve, and a slick auto trans. So yeah, no doubt it will be quicker. But I doubt it will be more fun. Less noise, less driver involvement, less visceral nature. I'll hold on to the 6 speed manual 1LE for now. Oh, and V8 noises FTW.

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