[Aragorn]

This will be us for a long time, and afterwards we’ll be long gone. Grand kids can worry about it if they want.


“There are an estimated 60-70,000 vintage cars in Cuba, from classic American models like Chevrolets, Buicks, Chryslers, Oldsmobiles and Fords to Soviet-era Volgas and Ladas. About half of them date back to the 1950s, the rest are even older.

In the USA or UK these cars would be historic artifacts, locked carefully in a temperature-controlled garage, lovingly buffed every week, and driven only on the most special occasions. But in Cuba they are people’s daily runarounds, used as standard for picking up friends or running errands.”

[raptor5244]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...c6fb8d14969e95

[Devstrike]

LOL that is what happens when the Auto industry and Politicians push something without doing their homework.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

LOL that is what happens when the Auto industry and Politicians push something without doing their homework.

The Auto Industry isn't pushing anything. They are moving to EV simply to survive.

At some point we will see a balance between ICE and EV once the charging capabilities top out.

[Devstrike]

I didn't quote the article above my post you quoted. With family back home getting letters from power providers I do not doubt that article at all.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

LOL that is what happens when the Auto industry and Politicians push something without doing their homework.

Yeah, lol GM and Ford are spending Billions without doing their homework. Politicians? Different story.

[90503]

Ford and GM have spent plenty of billions over the years on numerous vehicles that have gone bust and were never a success.

Now suddenly because EV anything and everything they produce from now on is absolute genius and above criticism. All you have to do is simply agree because they have done their homework, and along with the government they know what is best for you even if you don't know, or heaven forbid happen to disagree.

Ford and GM have gone all in on EV and spent billions. It's automatically a success!! Who knew that they could do no wrong or never make a mistake from this point forward? All Hail!

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Yeah, lol GM and Ford are spending Billions without doing their homework. Politicians? Different story.

You're messing with us Number 3, you can't be that naive. Companies of this scale routinely waste billions on failed products and tens of millions on straight-up BS, let alone genuine mistakes that GM and Ford have had a rich history of making.

(It's as if you wanted to play the role of the devil's advocate in almost every post you make, feels quite a bit artificial to me...)

[cooldawg]

Number 3 will have a plethora of EV’s to choose from, soon. The Camaro Sedan EV being a sterling example. If his optimism is authentic, he’ll be one of the 1st members to buy one.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Um, Ford just lost a $1.2 billion lawsuit. Seems they didn't do their homework on what happens when a Superduty rolls over.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

You're messing with us Number 3, you can't be that naive. Companies of this scale routinely waste billions on failed products and tens of millions on straight-up BS, let alone genuine mistakes that GM and Ford have had a rich history of making.

(It's as if you wanted to play the role of the devil's advocate in almost every post you make, feels quite a bit artificial to me...)

To be very clear, I am defending the technology. If they get the answer on charging time and solid state batteries become a reality, EVs are simply the better solution with the exception of NVH.

And to restate it, I am not in the market for an EV…….yet.

Originally Posted by cooldawg

Number 3 will have a plethora of EV’s to choose from, soon. The Camaro Sedan EV being a sterling example. If his optimism is authentic, he’ll be one of the 1st members to buy one.

You’ve not read many of my posts if you think a 4 door Camaro is remotely acceptable to me. It’s not. But I hope for a 2 door version of the Chevy EV sedan…..

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Um, Ford just lost a $1.2 billion lawsuit. Seems they didn't do their homework on what happens when a Superduty rolls over.

Ok, knowing a lot about liability and litigiousness in the auto industry (long story), any OEM losing a lawsuit has little to do with your point. Sorry to break it to you, but it generally has little to do with ‘homework”.

[Devstrike]

I stand by my original statement the signs are definitely there that our electrical grid cannot handle it. I have family and relatives across the North East getting letters about conserving power and avoid charging vehicles and shut off unused appliances and AC if possible. I will once again say the Automakers and Politicians did not do their homework. Our power grid cannot handle it.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by Number 3

To be very clear, I am defending the technology. If they get the answer on charging time and solid state batteries become a reality, EVs are simply the better solution with the exception of NVH.

And to restate it, I am not in the market for an EV…….yet.



You’ve not read many of my posts if you think a 4 door Camaro is remotely acceptable to me. It’s not. But I hope for a 2 door version of the Chevy EV sedan…..



Ok, knowing a lot about liability and litigiousness in the auto industry (long story), any OEM losing a lawsuit has little to do with your point. Sorry to break it to you, but it generally has little to do with ‘homework”.

Sorry, I don’t share your confidence in these EV decisions being well founded. There are to many instances of auto makers making boneheaded decisions. Pinto anyone?

[90503]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

I stand by my original statement the signs are definitely there that our electrical grid cannot handle it. I have family and relatives across the North East getting letters about conserving power and avoid charging vehicles and shut off unused appliances and AC if possible. I will once again say the Automakers and Politicians did not do their homework. Our power grid cannot handle it.

Although your post makes perfect sense, you are guilty of thoughtcrime and spreading misinformation. The inevitable EV future must not be hindered by unfavorable circumstances and realities. Causing EV anxiety and slowing blind acceptance of EVs for the greater good must be canceled by the woke mob, corporate interests and the bureaucrats. To speak of such things is to go against the grain of GM's multi billion dollar investments and the administration's new liberal world order.

EV Doublethink requires you to believe there is no grid problem. You must accept any shortages, reductions in the standard of living, quality of life, as well as higher energy costs and also believe that it is not even happening.

The Transition and EV future is inevitable.