[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

C8 Z06 is going to be forced induction. That is where I'd put my money. I mean, why go backwards?

This is where the conversation gets above my paygrade, but I would have to say if they have a certain power figure they want to meet while being NA then a DOHC FPC engine might be the only way to get it because they are going to have to spin it to the moon. A DOHC FPC engine might be the only way to get that because larger displacement engines from what I understand have a harder time passing cold start emissions.

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Ford needs to retire that entire chassis and start over.

Wouldn't be the worst idea

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Why would GM benchmark an out of production N/A, FPC V8 car if it wasn’t N/A? It’s not like the GT2 has a particularly interesting powertrain.



I don’t consider the C7 Z06 a step forward. That car was a major step backwards. If the C8 Z06 is N/A, it’s correcting a mistake that never should have been made.

GM benchmarks alot of cars, I am sure performance wise whatever variant of C8 we see regardless of what powers it will be an absolute performer.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Why would GM benchmark an out of production N/A, FPC V8 car if it wasn’t N/A? It’s not like the GT2 has a particularly interesting powertrain.



I don’t consider the C7 Z06 a step forward. That car was a major step backwards. If the C8 Z06 is N/A, it’s correcting a mistake that never should have been made.

Because, corvette Z06 needs to be NA... read this.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/10...e-grand-sport/

[BluinSC]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I would agree. Had this article come out a while ago, I would have guessed they were sharing some bits with Cadillac and the Blackwing. And just about every other publication is saying the same as you, so just thought it was odd MT said something vastly different.

A few points tho

1. I know the C8.R requires the engine to go into production cars, but that is where I get a little confused because didn't the previous C7R, C6R use a 5.5 LT based engine? So couldn't GM use a smaller displacement version of the engine in a production car?

2. I agree i hear FPC and don't hear turbos but then again I don't really hear turbos on a lot of turbo cars until its been modified lol.




Yeah what a waste that was.

To be fair to Cadillac, while tge CT6V may no longer be made there will be a CT5V Blackwing made and coming at some point in the coming months.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BluinSC

To be fair to Cadillac, while tge CT6V may no longer be made there will be a CT5V Blackwing made and coming at some point in the coming months.

I thought the CT5Blackwings were going to LT4s lol

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I thought the CT5Blackwings were going to LT4s lol

Just in case you're not joking....
CT5: 2.0T
CT5-V: 3.0TT
CT5 Blackwing: 6.2SC

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Just in case you're not joking....
CT5: 2.0T
CT5-V: 3.0TT
CT5 Blackwing: 6.2SC

This ^

And trying to keep up with this stupid naming structures at cadillac got me like

[NW-99SS]

Cadillac ruined a well established and well known naming convention for what perfectly fits in the world today with an - up is down, blackwing is not blackwing naming convention.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I'm now thinking:
GS - NA FPC
Z06 - TT FPC
ZR1 - hybrid TT FPC

The Tesla Plaid just did a 1:30 at Laguna. Z06 had better fly.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

C8 Z06 is going to be forced induction. That is where I'd put my money. I mean, why go backwards?

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Why would GM benchmark an out of production N/A, FPC V8 car if it wasn’t N/A? It’s not like the GT2 has a particularly interesting powertrain. ....

I think it goes a little something like this....

• Stingray: 6.2L NA 495 hp; standard body
• GS: 6.2L NA 495 hp, Hybrid enabled AWD for total of 600+ hp; widebody
• Z06: 5.5L NA 650 hp; widebody
• ZR1: 5.5TT 750 hp; widebody
• Zora: 5.5TT Hybrid enabled AWD 1,000+ net hp, widebody

The GT2 was benchmarked because it was the top of the line available for purchase when the serious track development work started. Remember, development begins years before you ever see a spy shot of a camouflaged mule. They have to roll with what they can get their hands on. The GM Engineers are astute enough to know that the car that will be on the street when Z06 lands will be an improvement over the one they were using.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

I think it goes a little something like this....

• Stingray: 6.2L NA 495 hp; standard body
• GS: 6.2L NA 495 hp, Hybrid enabled AWD for total of 600+ hp; widebody
• Z06: 5.5L NA 650 hp; widebody
• ZR1: 5.5TT 750 hp; widebody
• Zora: 5.5TT Hybrid enabled AWD 1,000+ net hp, widebody

The GT2 was benchmarked because it was the top of the line available for purchase when the serious track development work started. Remember, development begins years before you ever see a spy shot of a camouflaged mule. They have to roll with what they can get their hands on. The GM Engineers are astute enough to know that the car that will be on the street when Z06 lands will be an improvement over the one they were using.

That looks like the leaked engine spec sheet info. What do you know that we don't, James? We know you have connections?

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

I think it goes a little something like this....

• Stingray: 6.2L NA 495 hp; standard body
• GS: 6.2L NA 495 hp, Hybrid enabled AWD for total of 600+ hp; widebody
• Z06: 5.5L NA 650 hp; widebody
• ZR1: 5.5TT 750 hp; widebody
• Zora: 5.5TT Hybrid enabled AWD 1,000+ net hp, widebody

The GT2 was benchmarked because it was the top of the line available for purchase when the serious track development work started. Remember, development begins years before you ever see a spy shot of a camouflaged mule. They have to roll with what they can get their hands on. The GM Engineers are astute enough to know that the car that will be on the street when Z06 lands will be an improvement over the one they were using.

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

That looks like the leaked engine spec sheet info. What do you know that we don't, James? We know you have connections?

I know a guy at IHS Markit that forecasts this stuff. Oh, wait.... that's me.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

I know a guy at IHS Markit that forecasts this stuff. Oh, wait.... that's me.

Haha!

[DaveC113]

Interesting as far as the GS being hybrid, seems like that would make it more of a street car vs the Z06 but maybe not any less expensive and power/acceleration may be comparable or even better from a dig with the GS having AWD.

Seems like a good idea, maybe more of a lower end version of the Zora than a lower end version of the Z06.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Interesting as far as the GS being hybrid, seems like that would make it more of a street car vs the Z06 but maybe not any less expensive and power/acceleration may be comparable or even better from a dig with the GS having AWD.

Seems like a good idea, maybe more of a lower end version of the Zora than a lower end version of the Z06.

That's exactly as I saw it, interesting approach, I like it!

Very interesting Corvette line-up, of course it remains to be seen, but I think GM is revolutionizing the super-car market with these offerings.

Please oh please find a way to put a manual in this thing GM!

[NW-99SS]

AWD Hybrid GS - sacrilege...