09-20-2015, 06:43 PM | #155 |
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...Maybe it's not a 1LE....maybe it's a Z/28....maybe there won't even be a 1LE..
Maybe it will be like the 5thGen after all.....ZL1 first, then a 1LE option for the SS, then a Z/28...who knows.... Maybe we're all getting too far ahead of ourselves with these videos...I hope we hear something "official" pretty soon.... |
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Maybe this section needs a new name then... |
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09-20-2015, 06:53 PM | #157 |
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09-20-2015, 08:05 PM | #158 | |
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I guess you and I are the only two that think the same thing: as far as the argument going about there not being a 1LE for this gen, I believe that to be correct too, A LOT of people would have been just fine and happy to have the Z/28 be the SS w/1LE package and the LT7...GM went waaayyy overboard and did everything else to it and put it in the 75K range and lost a lot of sales due to the price tag. Its not like they really wanted to sell that many Z/28's anyway, that would have jacked with their CAFE #'s...so all in all I am saying, this is the Z/28 and there will be no reason for a 1LE package with this gen because with the performance of the SS, there really is no need for it. |
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09-20-2015, 08:27 PM | #159 | |
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Yeah, I doubt we'll see the Z/28 built bare-bones and hi-priced like the 5thGen....It will likely be a model that has SS like creature comforts....and would be too similar to what a 1L-E would be with a unique engine.... The SS will turn out to be a track beast by itself and with the several, and probably more to come, options available, it's already 1L-Enough...lol... |
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09-20-2015, 09:47 PM | #161 |
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The only place the auto might be faster is full throttle up-shifts in sport mode. It's slower everywhere else, especially in down-shifts, arguably the most crucial thing on a track. And leaving it in auto will keep the revs too high, leading to over-heating on the track in the Z06. It's just not cut out for hard running track work.
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09-21-2015, 10:44 AM | #162 | |
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A new S/C ZL-1 with a LT-4 seems plausible enough....that engine already exists....It's still a big mystery/question what will be used for a Z/28 if they build one this Gen....Maybe the LT-1 still has some up-grades on the table for a Z/28....we will see.... (I wish they would just come out and say what they are going to build and when, even if it's just general terms and approximate time-frames....so we could all stop guessing...The only real "proof" we have so far are the thread titles...lol...) |
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09-21-2015, 10:58 AM | #163 |
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If you guys had to guess a price for the upcoming ZL1, what would you guess it would cost? mid 60's with some options? Or do you think it'll be hitting 70k+?
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09-21-2015, 11:50 AM | #164 |
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most people were priced out of the Z28 at $75K. Many more out of the ZL1 at $55-65K....if they have the ZL1 anywhere near the $70K range, they will not make people happy.
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09-21-2015, 11:57 AM | #165 |
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I don't see any reason whatsoever why a supercharged version of the 2SS (yes I know...there is more than just a supercharged engine!) should cost over 20K more than the 42K 2SS. So I say certainly no more than low 60s. My estimated ange on price would be 58 to 62 grand.
If they offer different "tiers" ala GT350, then I say mid 50s, all the way up to a mid to upper 60s "R" version.
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09-21-2015, 12:14 PM | #166 | |
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But again, as stated several times, what was the goal of that motor? Does it need to be as high HP for a Camaro as for a Corvette? Also, that was at least a year ago. Have they found a way since then? Does a Z/28 need a 600+ Hp motor like they probably planned for the Z06? Or can the NA motor get to 550 Hp safely, and cleanly, and provide the addition power a Z/28 needs? In other words, in a world of assumptions, assuming they completely scrapped the motor and it will never return doesn't make sense. Al O already said he sees the next Z/28 as a NA small displacement high RPM powered car. And as much as they fought against FI the last go round, I could see them waiting to use the Z/28 name for a fitting NA car.
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09-21-2015, 12:53 PM | #168 |
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For low 60's, an LT4 powered 6th gen camaro would be an incredible deal. I would imagine it would out perform the C7 Stingray in that case while costing about the same.
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