[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by clg82

How do I know how much “E” content the E85 that I’m getting has in it?

The gas you get at the pump will usually tell you the E content. I buy a 55 gallon barrel of E98 from the local oil company. The stuff you get in volume usually will not be too far off of what is advertised. Once you put it in your car, your gauge will tell you what E content it's sensing. Then it's easy math.

Even if I could get E85 at the pump, I wouldn't use it. Z OH 6 is right, you can never know what the actual E content of the pump fuel is. If you test one batch, it's only good until they get another dump. It seems to me, my way is simple. I stop at the gas station when I'm at a quarter tank or less. I put in seven gallons of 92 and go home and dump in 7 gallons of E98 and call it good.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by clg82

I've been looking into getting the snout and supercharger ported by KONG.....i have limited modifications currently (Mamo Throttle Body V2, Soler Prf TC, Borla S-Type Catback Exhaust) would it be worth the money to get that particular mod done? or could be money well spent elsewhere?

I'm adding a Kong and other Phase II mods as we speak, and I'll post the results.

[Stealth7]

Hard to believe a ported snout on a stock car will yield 30-40rwhp SAE... .

[Jimabe]

IMO Yes it's worth the blower port. Had mine done by Jokerz. Had the Full Tilt port. You can see my mods in signature. Did the port on second round of mods after LTs, pulley, intake. Second set of mods were port, 103 Nick Williams, big gulp, retune and weapon x boost chiller so I wouldn't lose hp to heat soak. Now at a little over 700 whp. It also whines almost as loud as a hellkitty now!

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Stealth7

Hard to believe a ported snout on a stock car will yield 30-40rwhp SAE... .

Its around 30WHp STD on a stock car, can be as much as 40whp STD on a modified car.

[SteveV]

Originally Posted by clg82

Thanks everyone for the inputs, keep it coming.....does anyone suggest going E85 first and than going pulley and ported blower? What is anyones idea on horsepower numbers with those mods?

CSP got over 700 at the wheels with pump gas, bolt-ons, ported blower and a tune. So, you really don't need to go the E-85 route to surpass 700 if you don't want to.

I will find that video and link it here.

[SteveV]

I found one of the videos...



And this is before he did a pulley swap...

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by SteveV

CSP got over 700 at the wheels with pump gas, bolt-ons, ported blower and a tune. So, you really don't need to go the E-85 route to surpass 700 if you don't want to.

I will find that video and link it here.

There are several ways to get to 700whp, but the reality is that's about the limit no matter how you get there before you need additional fueling mods or meth.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

There are several ways to get to 700whp, but the reality is that's about the limit no matter how you get there before you need additional fueling mods or meth.

To expand on your post - a totally stock pump gas fuel system is about 650-675RWHP (on a dynojet). With a camshaft and 38% fuel lobe it can be pushed to 750-770RWHP before it runs out of low side. With a DSX low side you can get in the 820-830RWHP range. After that you will need high side pump and injectors.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

To expand on your post - a totally stock pump gas fuel system is about 650-675RWHP (on a dynojet). With a camshaft and 38% fuel lobe it can be pushed to 750-770RWHP before it runs out of low side. With a DSX low side you can get in the 820-830RWHP range. After that you will need high side pump and injectors.

Actually around 700whp on a Dynojet is right. I've seen some go just slightly above and some slightly below. My car is 693whp and its on a totally stock fuel system.

[radz28]

Living in CA, I look at these kinds of mods' through that lens.

To me, this seems like a worth while mod'. Personally - most what I do is try to keep an OEM appearance. This falls into that 100%, and you're doing nothing to diminish anything, while getting all benefits. You'll be limited to power gains, but if you already know you what you're goals are, maybe this mod' falls within that set-up.

While it was 4-times more money, I knew I wanted more power than porting would allow. I also knew I wanted more efficiency and better temperatures. Even though I'm still waiting on certification (it's still in process - I just checked), there's no reason to think it won't happen. So - even though I paid a lot more, I'm making the power I wanted, I'm going to be totally emissions-friendly in CA, and I'm going to have better efficiency. Minus a couple small things, I'll have the power I wanted with no fuss (well - a tiny bit that will take minutes to correct). I've had too many issues with law enforcement, so mod'ing the way I have, while having less dollar-per-horsepower than FBO with a ported blower, I can rest knowing I can drive any time I want and not have a problem with enforcement.

Each situation is different as much as the individual. I think if you are honest with yourself about what your goals are (if you haven' already done this), that will make navigating through your options a little easier. That has helped me. I see a lot of Californians go balls-out on their builds, and don't understand how they plan on using the cars (I'm sure when smog time comes, they might know a guy they can go to or something), but it seems like enforcement is looking at mods' more and more. Maybe they only keep their cars for a few years and then dump them. Me - this car is my keeper and dream car, so it costs a little more to do it the way I am. I don't think many people plan to keep their cars more than a few years.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Actually around 700whp on a Dynojet is right. I've seen some go just slightly above and some slightly below. My car is 693whp and its on a totally stock fuel system.

I haven't dyno'd my car, but it's almost exactly the same as another Member, and he's a little more than 700 to the tires. I can definitely start seeing my low-side start to fall a little; my high side doesn't change yet. So that seems to line-up reasonably with your comment. I'm right in the mid-5s for IPW, so I'm close to the edge there, too. I might have to look at either a booster or the DSX.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by SteveV

CSP got over 700 at the wheels with pump gas, bolt-ons, ported blower and a tune. So, you really don't need to go the E-85 route to surpass 700 if you don't want to.

I will find that video and link it here.

Andrew hit 665 and then 690 before running out of fuel high side.

700rwhp SAE corrected is about your Max as your injector pulse width gets to unsafe levels.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Actually around 700whp on a Dynojet is right. I've seen some go just slightly above and some slightly below. My car is 693whp and its on a totally stock fuel system.

Can we stick with SAE correction please