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Old 03-08-2018, 08:30 AM   #15
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The intake manifold is the reason for the torque being low and the peak being so high in RPM.
He had same TRQ with stock intake Bo............ That dont add up lol
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:35 AM   #16
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When you use a intake like this be prepared to spin it to atleast 7500. This is basic stuff you guys over look. You basically wasted your money on dyno time and tuning and our time posting a dyno hp curve that didn't even peak yet.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:41 AM   #17
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Nice numbers, but yes your torque is low with just CAI intake, SP headers, HFC and tune on my 13 I made 491 HP and 448 Torque on a old 235/239 cam but that was when it was .639/.623 and I had 112 lsa. I know the gears do matter in the read out but also its most likely a non load bearing dyno compared to the Mustang dyno I use. I would say its the gears making that low torque but it proves out the intake is good making more power. Wanting one in red someday for my beast maybe..if they don't make one for the ls7 ...? Small bore heads are on my wish list also. Unfortunately dynos and tuning are only as good as the tuner and what software and how experienced they are on what dyno on what conditions and etc...... Your torque should drop off more though at the end of the run for that cam heres my old dyno and maybe the intake helps or ....... ?

I get unsmoothed from my tuner as it is the norm for being able to show the actual working of the dyno and the possible problem areas.
Its a dynojet if anything it is going to show MORE torque compared to a load bearing dyno. Gears are not the low torque issue here. Need to see previous dyno sheet. My bet is the CAM is ground retarded or installed a few degrees off. 413 trq is really low. I can show you a dyno dynamics sheet of my car making 476/456 and 2 dyno jets 473/475 463/463
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:41 AM   #18
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When you use a intake like this be prepared to spin it to atleast 7500. This is basic stuff you guys over look. You basically wasted your money on dyno time and tuning and our time posting a dyno hp curve that didn't even peak yet.
Oh... sorry for wasting your time. I hope you can apoligoze for wasting my time because this may be the dumbest most ignorant post I've ever seen on here.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:47 AM   #19
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Its a dynojet if anything it is going to show MORE torque compared to a load bearing dyno. Gears are not the low torque issue here. Need to see previous dyno sheet. My bet is the CAM is ground retarded or installed a few degrees off. 413 trq is really low. I can show you a dyno dynamics sheet of my car making 476/456 and 2 dyno jets 473/475 463/463
I would agree the tq number seems low... but honestly the car runs awesome and that's what is really important to me. My tuner is aware that is what is important to me and that's why they didn't spin it any higher. If I need to go faster I'll open the bottle....
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:52 AM   #20
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Do you have your old sheet? I would like to see just how much more power from 6200 up your making. I bet your 70hp at 6900
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:53 AM   #21
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The intake manifold is the reason for the torque being low and the peak being so high in RPM.
but he lost torque when he had his cam install. going from the TSP engine dyno of that same cam his torque should not have been affected with the cam install.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:58 AM   #22
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Oh... sorry for wasting your time. I hope you can apoligoze for wasting my time because this may be the dumbest most ignorant post I've ever seen on here.
EASY fella's...opinions are like..and OP the real Q is what kind of ride did you want/expect? If you were lookin for a motor that LIVE's at 7+k, then you have accomplished your goals. IF you where hoping to create a STREET car that is killer around town and from the stop light? Sorry but IMHO you missed the mark..big time...big fat a$$ cars like our need the TQ below 4k to get goin...ANY other Camaro that shows a "streetable" lol TQ curve is gonna eat you alive.

Now if you can live with that..cool..if you want to fix it now? only way if not goin with another intake would be to break out the degree wheel...find out where the cam REALLY is and go from there...not gonna get a sh!t load back but you can try to split the diff and see what happens..

or just ignore everything and go on with life...so you goin to 'cfest this year bro? just found out recently that I can! yippy...peace.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:06 AM   #23
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Do you have your old sheet? I would like to see just how much more power from 6200 up your making. I bet your 70hp at 6900
I have the sheets from all 3 times on the dyno.... seems like this thread had gotten off topic. I posted the recent and relevant info... thought others may find it interseting. I didn't realize it was going to be picked apart and criticized. My car, I'm happy with the results. Have a nice day...
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:06 AM   #24
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4.56s in a 9" swap will fix it too lol
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:08 AM   #25
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I have the sheets from all 3 times on the dyno.... seems like this thread had gotten off topic. I posted the recent and relevant info... thought others may find it interseting. I didn't realize it was going to be picked apart and criticized. My car, I'm happy with the results. Have a nice day...
Post them so you can see the real gains. This intake has huge potential I believe.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:24 AM   #26
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I have the sheets from all 3 times on the dyno.... seems like this thread had gotten off topic. I posted the recent and relevant info... thought others may find it interseting. I didn't realize it was going to be picked apart and criticized. My car, I'm happy with the results. Have a nice day...
Internet racers lol. As long as you are happy then that's all that matters. I got crucified when i added my cam and my torque number stayed the same after headers/cai tune. Same dyno same tuner. Think it made 461 on my tuners dyno and everyone thought it was wrong. Then a 1LE with a btr stage 4 with the same mods gets on the same dyno and makes 460 lol.

I then added twin turbos and left the same cam in took it to the same dyno / same tuner and made 830whp @ 14 lbs
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:56 AM   #27
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Oh... sorry for wasting your time. I hope you can apoligoze for wasting my time because this may be the dumbest most ignorant post I've ever seen on here.
Nothing dumb or ignorant about my post. The dumb and ignorance is the not understanding how it works and you thinking you should get a participation trophy.

Now get it to the track. I bet your 50hp more hp 60 tq less h/c car will go slower than lazerlemons bolt on 5gen at his best vs as yours sets.. .....now that's what i call ignorant.

The definition of ignorant is lacking of awareness or knowledge in general.

You spent good money on this stuff. Do some research and make it work. You don't buy a intake like this and expect to run the engine in the basically stock operating range and expect great results. Really any h/c car worth the effort put in it should extend the operating range of the engine.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:07 AM   #28
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Nothing dumb or ignorant about my post. The dumb and ignorance is the not understanding how it works and you thinking you should get a participation trophy.

Now get it to the track. I bet your 50hp more hp 60 tq less h/c car will go slower than lazerlemons bolt on 5gen at his best vs as yours sets.. .....now that's what i call ignorant.

The definition of ignorant is lacking of awareness or knowledge in general.

You spent good money on this stuff. Do some research and make it work. You don't buy a intake like this and expect to run the engine in the basically stock operating range and expect great results. Really any h/c car worth the effort put in it should extend the operating range of the engine.
It seems you assume a lot of things about me and my expectations. If you read my original post I was simply sharing information...I didn't ask for answers or opinions. If your not interested in the results, f#ck off and move on. Also, I will wager any amount of money you can afford to loose on a race with lazerlemons. Maybe overlooked it, but there's a plate on the intake and NO...I'm not sharing that dyno sheet... move on troll...
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