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crc91 · 10-07-2014, 06:25 PM

I'm looking into this for my dad. He has a 2010 2ss/rs L99 camaro. He's looking for advice on going the supercharger route. He wants a procharger kit either the high output kit with a snow meth kit or the procharger stage two kit. Which would make more power? Which would you guys go with and why? Looking for all the info I can on this. Thanks in advance guys!

AGP Turbo · 10-07-2014, 06:29 PM

Why Procharger over ECS?

pincushin3819 · 10-07-2014, 06:46 PM

The real question is why Procharger or ECS over AGP

crc91 · 10-07-2014, 06:48 PM

It's what he wants, what are the advantage of the ecs kit over the procharger? (Ecs uses a vortech head unit correct? So it can't be too different)

crc91 · 10-07-2014, 06:50 PM

He wants a sc centri setup

ModBargains.com · 10-07-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crc91

He wants a sc centri setup

When you think centrifugal superchargers, the first thing that should come to mind is Vortech! I've got some information my thread here that you can read about - http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313352

With the right mix of mods, this can be achievable on their competition blower.

If you're looking for a complete kit the V3si blower which comes standard in their complete kit would be a good option with 581HP and 517Ftlbs of torque at your disposal with a smooth easy powerband to work with as well.

pincushin3819 · 10-07-2014, 06:57 PM

From what I've read ECS is cheaper, better base head unit, better intercooler, better brackets & customer service.

crc91 · 10-07-2014, 07:19 PM

Let me make this clear guys, he wants a procharger h/o with the snow meth kit or the procharger stage 2 kit. This is what he wants to go with end of story, what would you guys pick and why? What power output can I expect out of both set ups? What kinda boost number would we be seeing? Again it's a 2ss 2010 L99

AGP Turbo · 10-07-2014, 07:53 PM

Meth injection doesn't go so well with the mild steel pipes in the procharger kit. Not sure if they have changed that or not.

Nitroman28 · 10-07-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crc91

Let me make this clear guys, he wants a procharger h/o with the snow meth kit or the procharger stage 2 kit. This is what he wants to go with end of story, what would you guys pick and why? What power output can I expect out of both set ups? What kinda boost number would we be seeing? Again it's a 2ss 2010 L99

He will want to go with the Stage 2. You get a better intercooler and race valve. If hes just looking to make around 600hp then the D1 will be plenty. But if he's like most and will want more power later get the F1A. Lot cheaper to upgrade now then later and have to buy a new blower. As for boost numbers that will depend on what pulley you go with.

crc91 · 10-07-2014, 10:02 PM

What numbers could we expect with the reg procharger kit plus meth compared to the stage 2 procharger kit? (Both with the regular pulley )

Midnite Magic · 10-07-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crc91

I'm looking into this for my dad. He has a 2010 2ss/rs L99 camaro. He's looking for advice on going the supercharger route. He wants a procharger kit either the high output kit with a snow meth kit or the procharger stage two kit. Which would make more power? Which would you guys go with and why? Looking for all the info I can on this. Thanks in advance guys!

The cold hard facts are the procharger kits have a few problems on the Gen 5 Camaros that lead to less than stellar performance when compared to the Vortech V3-Si kit. First one being the intercooler in the HO kits. It is a joke and barely cools 4-5 psi of boost. If you like 160-170° intake air temps this is the kit for you. The larger intercooler in the Stage II kit does okay but then you need to deal with the issue of the air intake being right above the exhaust manifold or header. The Stage II kit is OK but I would recommend upgrading the the P1SC-1 to D1SC right away along with wrapping the exhaust header/manifold. Also methanol on the procharger steel piping is not that great. I guess it comes down to how much power and money he is looking to spend. The Stage II kit with D1SC pulled for 8 psi will make good power without methanol on pump gas. Plenty of other option like the AGP twin turbo kit, Turbonetics single kit or a TVS2300

crc91 · 10-07-2014, 10:53 PM

Thanks for the input I'll let him read this. Keep it coming guys the more info I have to give him the better! Anyone else?

Midnite Magic · 10-08-2014, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crc91

Thanks for the input I'll let him read this. Keep it coming guys the more info I have to give him the better! Anyone else?

Guess you also have to ask yourself how you are going to use the car? If this is an around the town stoplight pounding machine nothing is going to beat a positive displacement blower in torque and acceleration from a light with an automatic. The Vortech and Procharger will be faster on the top end but the amount of low RPM torque the TVS2300 makes once that bypass valve closes makes most people smile. I would rather have 40-50 more ft. lbs. than 20 more HP at peak RPM. It is all about area under the curve

10-07-2014, 06:25 PM	#1
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Need opinions on FI option I'm looking into this for my dad. He has a 2010 2ss/rs L99 camaro. He's looking for advice on going the supercharger route. He wants a procharger kit either the high output kit with a snow meth kit or the procharger stage two kit. Which would make more power? Which would you guys go with and why? Looking for all the info I can on this. Thanks in advance guys!

10-07-2014, 06:29 PM	#2
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	Why Procharger over ECS?

10-07-2014, 06:46 PM	#3
pincushin3819 Drives: 11 AGP TT SS, 14 ECS C7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 352	The real question is why Procharger or ECS over AGP

10-07-2014, 06:48 PM	#4
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	It's what he wants, what are the advantage of the ecs kit over the procharger? (Ecs uses a vortech head unit correct? So it can't be too different)

10-07-2014, 06:50 PM	#5
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	He wants a sc centri setup

10-07-2014, 06:57 PM	#7
pincushin3819 Drives: 11 AGP TT SS, 14 ECS C7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 352	From what I've read ECS is cheaper, better base head unit, better intercooler, better brackets & customer service.

10-07-2014, 07:19 PM	#8
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Let me make this clear guys, he wants a procharger h/o with the snow meth kit or the procharger stage 2 kit. This is what he wants to go with end of story, what would you guys pick and why? What power output can I expect out of both set ups? What kinda boost number would we be seeing? Again it's a 2ss 2010 L99

10-07-2014, 07:53 PM	#9
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	Meth injection doesn't go so well with the mild steel pipes in the procharger kit. Not sure if they have changed that or not.

10-07-2014, 10:02 PM	#11
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	What numbers could we expect with the reg procharger kit plus meth compared to the stage 2 procharger kit? (Both with the regular pulley )

10-07-2014, 10:53 PM	#13
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Thanks for the input I'll let him read this. Keep it coming guys the more info I have to give him the better! Anyone else?