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Clarkstar · 09-29-2019, 03:18 PM

Thinking of taking the plunge this winter. Tell me your set up and experiences....

Thanks

zz430camaro · 09-29-2019, 03:49 PM

No but I wish I would have, I'm sure you know you need adjustable rockers.

Clarkstar · 09-29-2019, 03:53 PM

Some have used the stock ones and shimmed them. Looking for what others have done... jessel?

Arch-City · 09-29-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

Some have used the stock ones and shimmed them. Looking for what others have done... jessel?

I just switched to a LLSR, and I am still trying to get the car to run decent on the road. It would be great for a track only car and that LOD intake that you have would probably work really well. Right now I wish I had stayed with my old setup.

Current setup is 416ci with LS7 Heads, 12.7 compression, 102 mm TB, MSD intake (waiting for LOD to get the LS7 version ready) E85. Cam is LLSR 26x/27x about 720 lift, Harland Sharp rockers.

zz430camaro · 09-29-2019, 06:57 PM

If it were me, I would just get the Jesel ones. Then you can fine tune the lash without any hassle. Most people probably don't run them because of the extra cost but from what I have read, they always make more power and the noise is actually less than a hydraulic lifter.

Clarkstar · 09-29-2019, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch-City

I just switched to a LLSR, and I am still trying to get the car to run decent on the road. It would be great for a track only car and that LOD intake that you have would probably work really well. Right now I wish I had stayed with my old setup.

Current setup is 416ci with LS7 Heads, 12.7 compression, 102 mm TB, MSD intake (waiting for LOD to get the LS7 version ready) E85. Cam is LLSR 26x/27x about 720 lift, Harland Sharp rockers.

Cam dynamics?

Arch-City · 09-29-2019, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

Cam dynamics?

No, its a Cam Motion LLSR with PAC Springs

Clarkstar · 09-29-2019, 07:19 PM

250/262 duration @ .050’’

112+4

.705’’/.688’’ lift with 1.7 rocker

This is what they speced for me...

zz430camaro · 09-29-2019, 08:40 PM

Just because you get a LLSR does not mean you have to put in a massive cam. That cam will be tough to tune well for a street car. Arch City also has a massive cam that is around 260@.050.

250/262 duration @ .050’’

112+4

.705’’/.688’’ lift with 1.7 rocker

This will make good power but will be tough to drive I would think.

Clarkstar · 09-29-2019, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zz430camaro

Just because you get a LLSR does not mean you have to put in a massive cam. That cam will be tough to tune well for a street car. Arch City also has a massive cam that is around 260@.050.

250/262 duration @ .050’’

112+4

.705’’/.688’’ lift with 1.7 rocker

This will make good power but will be tough to drive I would think.

I'm a tough guy

zz430camaro · 09-29-2019, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

I'm a tough guy

Ya, I keep forgetting you have a 416 plus you lose a little on duration from the lash. Should be a great cam for that motor.

Its close to this and look at how well it worked on this motor.

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...ild-with-ffre/

Clarkstar · 09-30-2019, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zz430camaro

Ya, I keep forgetting you have a 416 plus you lose a little on duration from the lash. Should be a great cam for that motor.

Its close to this and look at how well it worked on this motor.

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...ild-with-ffre/

Awesome article... thanks

lazerlemonta · 09-30-2019, 07:56 AM

Clark,

Go over to LS1 tech and check out Darth_V8r build and search some of his posts. Thunderstuck also did a very nice write up over there using stock rockers cut into pairs and shimming to achieve lash. I done this on my hydraulic set up as well. Darth uses yella terra rockers from tony mamo. That cam will run and drive about like a SS4 in stock cubes so it should be no issue to tune and will carry out to 76-7800.

Clarkstar · 09-30-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

Clark,

Go over to LS1 tech and check out Darth_V8r build and search some of his posts. Thunderstuck also did a very nice write up over there using stock rockers cut into pairs and shimming to achieve lash. I done this on my hydraulic set up as well. Darth uses yella terra rockers from tony mamo. That cam will run and drive about like a SS4 in stock cubes so it should be no issue to tune and will carry out to 76-7800.

Thanks, I read up on shimming the rockers... interesting, but I think I'll spend the coin for some adjustables

09-29-2019, 03:18 PM	#1
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	LLSR cam anyone? Thinking of taking the plunge this winter. Tell me your set up and experiences.... Thanks __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

09-29-2019, 03:49 PM	#2
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	No but I wish I would have, I'm sure you know you need adjustable rockers. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

09-29-2019, 03:53 PM	#3
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	Some have used the stock ones and shimmed them. Looking for what others have done... jessel? __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

09-29-2019, 06:57 PM	#5
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	If it were me, I would just get the Jesel ones. Then you can fine tune the lash without any hassle. Most people probably don't run them because of the extra cost but from what I have read, they always make more power and the noise is actually less than a hydraulic lifter. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

09-29-2019, 07:19 PM	#8
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	250/262 duration @ .050’’ 112+4 .705’’/.688’’ lift with 1.7 rocker This is what they speced for me... __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

09-29-2019, 08:40 PM	#9
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	Just because you get a LLSR does not mean you have to put in a massive cam. That cam will be tough to tune well for a street car. Arch City also has a massive cam that is around 260@.050. 250/262 duration @ .050’’ 112+4 .705’’/.688’’ lift with 1.7 rocker This will make good power but will be tough to drive I would think. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

09-30-2019, 07:56 AM	#13
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	Clark, Go over to LS1 tech and check out Darth_V8r build and search some of his posts. Thunderstuck also did a very nice write up over there using stock rockers cut into pairs and shimming to achieve lash. I done this on my hydraulic set up as well. Darth uses yella terra rockers from tony mamo. That cam will run and drive about like a SS4 in stock cubes so it should be no issue to tune and will carry out to 76-7800. __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82