[hotlap]

Next Camaro will continue to be a 2+2. Visibility, interior storage and trunk concerns addressed. SS level at ~500 HP. I think a hatch would be a smart move.

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by JohnCobalt

Very true. People were always amazed at what I could store back there. I have a pic in my bio or whatever it’s called of one of the vettes I took on a camping trip. I put everything but the kitchen sink in there. That’s one thing I miss about the corvettes. I would LOVE a CAMARO with a HATCH and two seats. I understand why they use 2+2 but that would be a dream come true.

I would also like to see a coupe with an open air driving experience, a targa top, or even a t top. Considering the additional strength of the alpha platform I would think they could make that happen.

[PoorMansCamaro]

I would imagine there would be just about as much room under the hood trunk...maybe i'm wrong.

[RealG]

Yes, that’s a decent idea bring back the T tops ! that was a General Motors thing and very popular.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

If that was the case, going up market wouldn't require losing back seats. I think Camaro will be able to spread more upmarket, but will still need to maintain moderately priced options, which will likely require marketing to people who get at least some usage of the rear seats. Going to a two-seater eliminates an entire class of customers who need some semblance of a rear seat (package shelf ).

We're already at a point today where some Camaros cost more than some Corvettes. If Corvette goes further up market, it leaves more room for high priced Camaro variants, but you cannot take the entire line up there.

Let's not ignore the midlife crisis crowd either with 1-2 smaller kids who might just love sitting in the back (khm, khm). The back seat is a stable selling point in this segment, not a primary one, but important nevertheless.

[Dolby109]

So hopefully I don't get anyone in trouble, but I was talking to an engineer and got a couple details on 7th gen.

So first it will be developed on a revised Alpha platform called the A2.
Second I was trying to impress upon the engineer that the car should have shorter sills (better visibility) and he expressed something to the effect of: Camaro owners want the chopped look and that is the direction we are continuing to take.
To me that is unfortunate as the lack of outward visibility is, by a large margin, the biggest detraction for people who are in the market but aren't already die hard Camaro fans.

[bpang1234]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

If they price the Mid engine Corvette starting in the $65k range some Camaro buyers will go that way. I do think we will see a hatch back in the next Gen Camaro.

I would be happy with a hatchback but I am a 3rd Gen guy (that was my first car) and remember how nice that hatchback was for carrying stuff that you wouldn't expect to be able to do in a car like this. One of the big complaints about the current gen is the size of the trunk opening compared to how big the trunk actually is...this would solve that and if done right keep it looking like a sports car and not like how Porsche did the first Panamera.

[protovack]

Originally Posted by Dolby109

So hopefully I don't get anyone in trouble, but I was talking to an engineer and got a couple details on 7th gen.

So first it will be developed on a revised Alpha platform called the A2.
Second I was trying to impress upon the engineer that the car should have shorter sills (better visibility) and he expressed something to the effect of: Camaro owners want the chopped look and that is the direction we are continuing to take.
To me that is unfortunate as the lack of outward visibility is, by a large margin, the biggest detraction for people who are in the market but aren't already die hard Camaro fans.

I said that before i bought a sixth gen, and i was wrong. However, you still may be right about it being an issue for new buyers.

[Dolby109]

Originally Posted by protovack

However, you still may be right about it being an issue for new buyers.

Yes this is the issue. Regardless of how easy it may be to eventually adapt to the Camaro's closed greenhouse, it turns off a lot of people. I personally know TWO Mustang owners who compared the Camaro and both of them said the lack of visibility in the Camaro was their primary reason for choosing the (poorer handling) Mustang.
I frequent Foums and Youtube comments all across the spectrum and every time a Camaro comes into a comparison the "but you can't see out of it" comments start flying, even in comparisons like the SS vs M4 where the Camaro was superior, and vastly less expensive. Sure some of that is just like politics, people are firmly rooted, and sluff off facts that don't fit their paradigm, but I still think the Camaro with it's current level of performance credibility could win over a lot more customers with better visibility.
Frankly I think this is evident in the declining Camaro sales despite the best performance ever.

[RealG]

Originally Posted by bpang1234

I would be happy with a hatchback but I am a 3rd Gen guy (that was my first car) and remember how nice that hatchback was for carrying stuff that you wouldn't expect to be able to do in a car like this. One of the big complaints about the current gen is the size of the trunk opening compared to how big the trunk actually is...this would solve that and if done right keep it looking like a sports car and not like how Porsche did the first Panamera.

Wow really good points, I had a brand new 1984 Z28 and it seemed so practical and you’re right it was because of the hatchback, I was younger but mostly it was the hatchback. LOL

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Dolby109

Yes this is the issue. Regardless of how easy it may be to eventually adapt to the Camaro's closed greenhouse, it turns off a lot of people. I personally know TWO Mustang owners who compared the Camaro and both of them said the lack of visibility in the Camaro was their primary reason for choosing the (poorer handling) Mustang.
I frequent Foums and Youtube comments all across the spectrum and every time a Camaro comes into a comparison the "but you can't see out of it" comments start flying, even in comparisons like the SS vs M4 where the Camaro was superior, and vastly less expensive. Sure some of that is just like politics, people are firmly rooted, and sluff off facts that don't fit their paradigm, but I still think the Camaro with it's current level of performance credibility could win over a lot more customers with better visibility.
Frankly I think this is evident in the declining Camaro sales despite the best performance ever.

All they'd need to do is adjust the beltline down or increase the total height by 1-2" and everyone would be appeased. Visibility is mostly a non-issue, but the overall perspective does take a bit of getting used to, and as you witnessed, many will not be willing to give the car a second look or a thorough test drive.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Dolby109

So hopefully I don't get anyone in trouble, but I was talking to an engineer and got a couple details on 7th gen.

So first it will be developed on a revised Alpha platform called the A2.
Second I was trying to impress upon the engineer that the car should have shorter sills (better visibility) and he expressed something to the effect of: Camaro owners want the chopped look and that is the direction we are continuing to take.
To me that is unfortunate as the lack of outward visibility is, by a large margin, the biggest detraction for people who are in the market but aren't already die hard Camaro fans.

If anybody that thinks the 2019 Camaro is ugly, me included, you wouldn’t want a Camaro that put visibility before exterior appearance.

[maraging]

Originally Posted by Dolby109

So hopefully I don't get anyone in trouble, but I was talking to an engineer and got a couple details on 7th gen.

So first it will be developed on a revised Alpha platform called the A2.
Second I was trying to impress upon the engineer that the car should have shorter sills (better visibility) and he expressed something to the effect of: Camaro owners want the chopped look and that is the direction we are continuing to take.
To me that is unfortunate as the lack of outward visibility is, by a large margin, the biggest detraction for people who are in the market but aren't already die hard Camaro fans.

An engineer working on the 7th gen Camaro is giving you details??

[Lerch98]

From my understanding
The mid engine Corvette will be 100k to 150K (like a Z06)
Chevrolet will still make the Stingray (65K) this is a serious market segment and Chevrolet will no give that up.