Homepage Garage Wiki Register Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > 6th gen Camaro vs...


Phastek Performance


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2016, 05:33 PM   #1
Blackdevil77

 
Blackdevil77's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,376
1LE SS vs GT350

I know a lot of us on here believe the 1LE is gonna best, or at least match the GT350 performance on the track. I thought for entertainment purposes, while we wait for the 1LE to come out, check out what the GT350 folks are saying. Most of them don't believe the 1LE will be able to keep up with the GT350 and some of them are saying that the GT350 outperforms the C7 Stingray Z51 on the track?

Check out the thread here. Some seem quite bitter

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...E-SS-is-coming!
Blackdevil77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 05:55 PM   #2
6spdhyperblue


 
Drives: 6th gen
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: US
Posts: 3,670
my lord, how quickly forget the 4.6 era. I loved my 4th gen LS1 and my s197 but when people get this clouded its pretty bad.

"I am a Ford guy. Anything that Chevy does will be met head on by Ford. Additionally, Ford will always meet and exceed their competition. The new 1LE, or any other mass produced Chevy products they manufacture, are nothing for me to be concerned with. I will always purchase Ford performance vehicles as long as Ford continues to produce quality products (and supports these products) and can be purchased at a affordable (pun intended) price.

Keep trying GM.

LS Boss"
6spdhyperblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 06:06 PM   #3
Blackdevil77

 
Blackdevil77's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,376
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicul15 View Post
my lord, how quickly forget the 4.6 era. I loved my 4th gen LS1 and my s197 but when people get this clouded its pretty bad.

"I am a Ford guy. Anything that Chevy does will be met head on by Ford. Additionally, Ford will always meet and exceed their competition. The new 1LE, or any other mass produced Chevy products they manufacture, are nothing for me to be concerned with. I will always purchase Ford performance vehicles as long as Ford continues to produce quality products (and supports these products) and can be purchased at a affordable (pun intended) price.

Keep trying GM.

LS Boss"
Every brand has their fanboys. I honestly wish I was biased. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper. I can appreciate any good car, regardless of manufacturer and want them all lol. I love the GT350, but I hate how every time Ford puts out a desirable performance car, they hype it up to such a ridiculous extent, that dealerships try to rob their customers that want one. All these mark ups are ridiculous. Even the Focus RS is gonna be marked up when they hit dealerships. Common…
Blackdevil77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 06:16 PM   #4
Zodiac
Sarcasm Personified
 
Drives: 2017 Charger R/T Scat Pack
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 459
So GM dealers didn't have markups on the C7 when they came out? Didn't mark up the Z/28 either? Dodge dealers didn't have ADM on Hellcats?

All dealers do it, not just Ford dealers. They are independently owned and operated, has nothing to do with the manufacturer.

I think the 1LE will be a great car, no doubt. I'm thinking it will be better than the base GT350 and comparable to the GT350 TP.
Zodiac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2016, 06:23 PM   #5
Blackdevil77

 
Blackdevil77's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,376
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac View Post
So GM dealers didn't have markups on the C7 when they came out? Didn't mark up the Z/28 either? Dodge dealers didn't have ADM on Hellcats?

All dealers do it, not just Ford dealers. They are independently owned and operated, has nothing to do with the manufacturer.

I think the 1LE will be a great car, no doubt. I'm thinking it will be better than the base GT350 and comparable to the GT350 TP.
The Hellcats are still marked up like crazy. The C7 weren't marked up as heavily as the GT350 and it didn't last very long. The Z/28 was at first because it was a limited production car so the dealers try to take advantage of it. And a lot of them are still sitting on lots now…

The C7's are being discounted. The GT350's probably will never be discounted or at least not for some time. When I bought my 2014 Shelby GT500, the car has already been out for over a year and dealers were still trying to get over sticker.
Blackdevil77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 07:43 AM   #6
Atra
 
Drives: 16' 1SS M6
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: GA
Posts: 566
The butthurt is strong over there...
__________________
Nightfall Grey 1SS 56F Black Bowties
Atra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 09:55 AM   #7
KMPrenger


 
KMPrenger's Avatar
 
Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 13,943
Maybe some of you guys should share this on the SVT and Mustang6G boards and see how long it takes for the thread to blow up? I'd predict 20 pages after about 4 or 5 days.

Chevy is throwing down the gauntlet...claiming the 1LE will run with and beat the GT350 (I'm sure...base GT350. If its the GT350TP, now that would be super impressive)

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/camaro-1...213031084.html

But I've been saying it...I think it will be a GT350 equal or beater for thousands less.
__________________
2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties
2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)
KMPrenger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:04 AM   #8
Memphis43

 
Memphis43's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevy
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Memphis, Tennessee
Posts: 794
Well autoblog just stated that guess what, next year the base gt350 is getting the track pack standard.

Looks like Ford had to make a move because of the 1le


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Memphis43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:04 AM   #9
huggercamaro21
Sales Manager for Chevy
 
huggercamaro21's Avatar
 
Drives: Tahoe RST
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 1,313
2017 350 is going to come standard with MRC and all the coolers. So basically the track package comes standard now. I wonder how much the sticker is going to go up.
__________________
2016 2SS Nightfall Grey Metallic, Adrenaline Red interior, auto, NPP, MRC, and Nav.
Killed 06/23/2016
#2
2016 Red Hot 2SS, A8, NPP, MRC, Nav, and Sunroof. VIN #115750
huggercamaro21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:11 AM   #10
Memphis43

 
Memphis43's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevy
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Memphis, Tennessee
Posts: 794
Quote:
Originally Posted by huggercamaro21 View Post
2017 350 is going to come standard with MRC and all the coolers. So basically the track package comes standard now. I wonder how much the sticker is going to go up.

At least 5k


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Memphis43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:19 AM   #11
SpeedIsLife


 
Drives: Current Camaro-less
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,242
Quote:
Originally Posted by huggercamaro21 View Post
2017 350 is going to come standard with MRC and all the coolers. So basically the track package comes standard now. I wonder how much the sticker is going to go up.

Probably not as much as some might think.

With MRC and the coolers being standard now it means that they can buy in much larger quantities, which will drive the cost down.

If they make MRC an option for the 2018 GT's then that will result in lower costs again.

My guess is it'll bump the price up for about $52,000 to start, maybe $53,000.
SpeedIsLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:24 AM   #12
KMPrenger


 
KMPrenger's Avatar
 
Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 13,943
Ahh very interesting...well then my guess is that the 2017 1LE will not best the 2017 Mustang GT350, but it won't be far off, and it will be at least 7 grand less.

Wouldn't surprise me if MRC becomes an option for the GT either....good for Ford. It would be a good move.
__________________
2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties
2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)
KMPrenger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:32 AM   #13
SS 1LE
マスタング = 遅い
 
SS 1LE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife View Post
My guess is it'll bump the price up for about $52,000 to start, maybe $53,000.
Mustang6G is saying about $5000...the old track pack option was $6500, so it's a little less.

That puts one after destination and gas guzzler tax (that everyone seems to forget) at about $55,000 to start...probably over $10,000 more than a SS 1LE.
SS 1LE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2016, 10:44 AM   #14
KMPrenger


 
KMPrenger's Avatar
 
Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 13,943
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS 1LE View Post
Mustang6G is saying about $5000...the old track pack option was $6500, so it's a little less.

That puts one after destination and gas guzzler tax (that everyone seems to forget) at about $55,000 to start...probably over $10,000 more than a SS 1LE.
One member just said his "source" is saying no more than $3,500 increase on non-r models, so if that's the case, looking at least an MSRP of 53,000.
__________________
2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties
2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)
KMPrenger is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.