Quick oil fill question

Cgocifer · 03-12-2018, 09:02 PM

Posting here for more visibility.

Anyone here with a 2018 SS or SS 1LE change their oil and have to use more than 10 quarts to fill the pan?

I had to use 11.5 quarts to bring it to the full mark on the dip stick. Nothing spilled, no drips, no leaks. Car was level and I checked it cold and after a quick drive after sitting for 15 minutes. Checked several times.

No idea where all that oil went, but I'm a bit perplexed. I used two 5qt jugs of Mobil 1 and a Mobil 1 M113A filter. Only thing I can think of is that the filter is higher capacity. It says right on the box that it is higher capacity, higher efficiency, but over a quart more?

KSA464 · 03-12-2018, 09:17 PM

Did my fisrt oil change last week (945 miles) on my 18' 2 SS and filled with 10 quarts of Mobile 1. The dip stick reads full (oil covering the cross hatchs). Hope that helps.

Cgocifer · 03-12-2018, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KSA464

Did my fisrt oil change last week (945 miles) on my 18' 2 SS and filled with 10 quarts of Mobile 1. The dip stick reads full (oil covering the cross hatchs). Hope that helps.

What filter? Only thing i can think of is that M1-113A holds more oil.

SSDanny · 03-12-2018, 09:29 PM

Mine also took 11! lol I was with a mechanic (using his lift while he ate), and he said it should be fine.

carguy55 · 03-12-2018, 09:43 PM

Good to know before my change, I only bought 11 quarts

77Z28 · 03-12-2018, 10:21 PM

Let it sit for awhile before you check the oil. It takes a long time for it to drain back down.

CamaroBody · 03-13-2018, 01:30 AM

why would you put more than 10? two 5g

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KSA464 · 03-13-2018, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

What filter? Only thing i can think of is that M1-113A holds more oil.

AC PF68 (or whatever AC filter it is?- cant think right off the top of my head and I'm not walking out to the gargage to confirm) I bought a 12 pack box of AC filters on Ebay for $60 shipped....I wont have to buy a filter for my oil changes for a long time.

I`m Batman · 03-13-2018, 10:30 AM

Mine takes 10qt. I use ACDelco PF64. I can't imagine the Mobil 1 filter would take more oil. It's the same size. I would stop at 10 qt. Let it sit for at least 45 mins to 1 hr to make sure all of the oil comes back down. At least it takes about that long for me to get all 10 qt drained out of the engine when changing the oil after the car has been running.

ecko04 · 03-13-2018, 11:01 AM

Manual says 10 quarts. Service manual says 10 quarts. LT1 has been 10 quarts in every application (e.g. Corvette or Camaro). Engine has been unchanged since its debut in 2014.

It’s 10 quarts.

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Glen e · 03-13-2018, 11:27 AM

I learned a long time ago from several master techs....It doesn't matter what the capacity the engineers put in the manual. Why? Because no one including you, knows how much oil is left in the engine after you do a drain. I've seen situations where people leave a quart, leave a quart and a half, or get it all out. So here's what you have to do: If you know that the capacity is 10, with a filter change, put in 9.5 quarts and then start putting 2 ounces at a time until it is absolutely in the middle of the stick, Not at the top, not at the bottom, but the middle of the hashmarks. The bottom and top are extremes, there's no need to do that. Give the the engine a little room, so that on hills and in the rough situations you're not overflowing oil. Too much oil is worse than a low condition.

[edit- start with 9.5 total, this is after you measure that amount out and fill up the new oil filter for the screw on. ]

Bottom line: Use the stick to tell you how much to put in, not some arbitrary number you start with.

ecko04 · 03-13-2018, 01:01 PM

I tend to agree with Glen, and most certainly would if I had done any modification that required the use of more oil (i.e. oil cooled turbocharger, additional oil scavenging pump or baffled oil pan) or an extremely rare vehicle.

With these cars, and how particular some GM dealers are about warranty work, I follow the recommended oil quantity and oil type in the manual.

The reason being is if you ever find yourself in a situation where you’re having engine issues and GM, or another 3rd party warranty provider, is requesting proof of oil changes that you did yourself via a log you’ve kept, it’s much easier to get an approval for repair if the manual has been followed.

While yes, you can certainly state the rationale for using 9.75qts and 9.85qts as opposed to the 10qts due to remaining oil not being drained, people in positions to approve or deny your claims are sometimes not as well versed as we are and will use that difference as a justification for denial.

Keep it simple, take your time with the drain on a level surface and follow the manual. If you do so, the car will be just fine and you won’t get yourself into situations where you have to try to justify your deviations.

Going back to the initial point though, 11qts seems a bit much and on the high side even with a filter change. OP, keep an eye on your oil levels.

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NYJets12 · 03-13-2018, 01:30 PM

I got a 1lt the dealer just did my 1st free oil change it took 8.8 quarts

enzia35 · 03-13-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NYJets12

I got a 1lt the dealer just did my 1st free oil change it took 8.8 quarts

Nope, should be 6qt.

03-12-2018, 09:02 PM	#1
Cgocifer Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE, 2015 RAM Ecodiesel Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,451	Quick oil fill question Posting here for more visibility. Anyone here with a 2018 SS or SS 1LE change their oil and have to use more than 10 quarts to fill the pan? I had to use 11.5 quarts to bring it to the full mark on the dip stick. Nothing spilled, no drips, no leaks. Car was level and I checked it cold and after a quick drive after sitting for 15 minutes. Checked several times. No idea where all that oil went, but I'm a bit perplexed. I used two 5qt jugs of Mobil 1 and a Mobil 1 M113A filter. Only thing I can think of is that the filter is higher capacity. It says right on the box that it is higher capacity, higher efficiency, but over a quart more?

03-12-2018, 09:29 PM	#4
SSDanny Drives: 2017 Camaro SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: LA Posts: 447	Mine also took 11! lol I was with a mechanic (using his lift while he ate), and he said it should be fine. __________________ 2017 Camaro SS - Kooks Long Tube Headers 1-7/8th - EFI Flex Fuel Kit - Megan Racing Coilovers - FORGESTAR F14's 20x9.5 & 20x11

03-13-2018, 01:30 AM	#7
CamaroBody Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA Posts: 1,160	why would you put more than 10? two 5g . __________________ 2SS, Hyper Blue, 8-Speed Automatic, NPP Exhaust, Magnetic Ride Control, Sunroof, Navigation, 5-Spoke Low-Gloss Black Wheels, Black Bowtie Emblems, Cargo Mat/Net Mods: XPEL - Hood, Bumper, Headlights, & Side Mirrors JWM - Side Markers ZL1 Addons - Deluxe Rock Guards & Red Lift Pads GM - Dark Tail Lamps MRR - Gloss Black M017s

03-13-2018, 11:27 AM	#11
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	I learned a long time ago from several master techs....It doesn't matter what the capacity the engineers put in the manual. Why? Because no one including you, knows how much oil is left in the engine after you do a drain. I've seen situations where people leave a quart, leave a quart and a half, or get it all out. So here's what you have to do: If you know that the capacity is 10, with a filter change, put in 9.5 quarts and then start putting 2 ounces at a time until it is absolutely in the middle of the stick, Not at the top, not at the bottom, but the middle of the hashmarks. The bottom and top are extremes, there's no need to do that. Give the the engine a little room, so that on hills and in the rough situations you're not overflowing oil. Too much oil is worse than a low condition. [edit- start with 9.5 total, this is after you measure that amount out and fill up the new oil filter for the screw on. ] Bottom line: Use the stick to tell you how much to put in, not some arbitrary number you start with. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant Last edited by Glen e; 03-13-2018 at 01:43 PM.

03-12-2018, 09:17 PM	#2
KSA464 Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Arizona Posts: 56	Did my fisrt oil change last week (945 miles) on my 18' 2 SS and filled with 10 quarts of Mobile 1. The dip stick reads full (oil covering the cross hatchs). Hope that helps.

03-12-2018, 09:43 PM	#5
carguy55 Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,488 View My Garage	Good to know before my change, I only bought 11 quarts

03-12-2018, 10:21 PM	#6
77Z28 Drives: 2016 2SS A8, NPP, Mag ride Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 91 View My Garage	Let it sit for awhile before you check the oil. It takes a long time for it to drain back down.

03-13-2018, 10:30 AM	#9
I`m Batman Drives: 2016 Camaro SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 393	Mine takes 10qt. I use ACDelco PF64. I can't imagine the Mobil 1 filter would take more oil. It's the same size. I would stop at 10 qt. Let it sit for at least 45 mins to 1 hr to make sure all of the oil comes back down. At least it takes about that long for me to get all 10 qt drained out of the engine when changing the oil after the car has been running.

03-13-2018, 11:01 AM	#10
ecko04 Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Coast Runner Posts: 878	Manual says 10 quarts. Service manual says 10 quarts. LT1 has been 10 quarts in every application (e.g. Corvette or Camaro). Engine has been unchanged since its debut in 2014. It’s 10 quarts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

03-13-2018, 01:01 PM	#12
ecko04 Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Coast Runner Posts: 878	I tend to agree with Glen, and most certainly would if I had done any modification that required the use of more oil (i.e. oil cooled turbocharger, additional oil scavenging pump or baffled oil pan) or an extremely rare vehicle. With these cars, and how particular some GM dealers are about warranty work, I follow the recommended oil quantity and oil type in the manual. The reason being is if you ever find yourself in a situation where you’re having engine issues and GM, or another 3rd party warranty provider, is requesting proof of oil changes that you did yourself via a log you’ve kept, it’s much easier to get an approval for repair if the manual has been followed. While yes, you can certainly state the rationale for using 9.75qts and 9.85qts as opposed to the 10qts due to remaining oil not being drained, people in positions to approve or deny your claims are sometimes not as well versed as we are and will use that difference as a justification for denial. Keep it simple, take your time with the drain on a level surface and follow the manual. If you do so, the car will be just fine and you won’t get yourself into situations where you have to try to justify your deviations. Going back to the initial point though, 11qts seems a bit much and on the high side even with a filter change. OP, keep an eye on your oil levels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

03-13-2018, 01:30 PM	#13
NYJets12 Drives: 2018 1LT Camaro Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: PA Posts: 781	I got a 1lt the dealer just did my 1st free oil change it took 8.8 quarts

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