12-01-2019, 04:20 PM | #15 |
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You hit it on the head, they languished on lots for and eternity..and had 20% discount only months after they came out. That''s the biggest argument for them being an outright track car- the team had a clean sheet of paper to build "that" car, with zero compromise. Now if you look at the ZL1,for a scant few grand more, it got you the RPO 1LE. The Z/28 was twice the price of a normal SS. It was a parts bin car,the LS7 was the perfect fit as it was on the way out.
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12-02-2019, 06:26 AM | #16 | |
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Maybe 10 people on this forum I'd say bought the Z/28 as a true track only car. Trailered to/from track. No street use. People bought the car to enjoy and use with their everyday life too. At $75/76k not much value. True reliable track cars can be built for less than $20k and destroy the Z/28 (my friends own them). Even at the current $40k's the cars are at, some people so don't see the value in the livability aspect. Maybe those who have both cars (or all 3 including the ZR1) or those made the switch can chime in and state their experiences.
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12-02-2019, 08:19 AM | #17 | |
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Perhaps you were speaking about some low beginner group, but in the experienced top groups it ain't happening for less than 20k. Hell, I had more than 15k invested "over" the purchase price of a Z51 optioned C6 Corvette in order to get close to my lap times in the Z/28. "Destroy" the Z/28 for less than 20k... that's funny. |
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12-02-2019, 08:58 AM | #18 | |
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Mainly used for hill climbs but does go to summit point and Pitt race https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz_6jApH...=1l2jlph268x70
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12-02-2019, 09:09 AM | #19 |
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I would contend they sat on lots because the word on the street was they rode like a dump truck( most race cars do),and in chevy's infinite timing wisdom they simultaneoulsly released the Z06. For 10K more, you got a vette with USB ports,back up cam, a cushier ride, and way more power. The question was what was a more dedicated track car, not what % of people bought one to track. If you recall, the non AC cars were like red headed step children, that to me speaks volumes. The ZLE's are most certainly a capable track car,but i don't see them winning any pro or amatuer road racing championships like the Z did. Same thing happened with the third gen 1LE's, dealers wouldn't order them for stock because they knew they would be stuck with them due to ride quality and lack of features.
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12-02-2019, 11:42 AM | #20 |
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Very interesting conversation. I’d say the z/28 priced itself out of most buyers when new and as said before the timing of the C7 platform didn’t help the matter. Had it been a 60k car when new it would have sold way better.
Far as the most focused track car that’s a tough one for me. The zle is extremely focused chassis wise, all the solid bushings, aero etc. the interior, they gave the customers what they wanted and I think it worked in their favor. Engine, I don’t think a FI engine is the best track option, but if you can control the heat what’s really the issue, besides the added weight. People want their cake and want to eat it too. That’s what gm did with the ZLE. The z/28 is a tad less extreme chassis wise with the bushed subframe and everything else. But it is a compromise on the interior and I think it hurt the z/28 with the masses. I’ll have to agree. For 20k u can have a C5zo6 with 315 square, sway bars, and seats, the z/28 will have its hands full. |
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12-02-2019, 06:21 PM | #22 | |
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Interesting reading up on the ZL1 and how the parts are different and the aero was changed for functional purposes not just a different nose to sell for more $. Could use a lower front splitter but as mentioned about AC cars popularity, most of us don't want a street car that rips itself apart on speed bumps and gutters and when my sorry driving overlaps curbs in the parking lots, the splitter has clearance. People get mad when they say they are considering a 5th because "it is so fast" and I reply get a lighter car to start with if you want to be FAST. The Z28 is a cool car but too heavy and expensive when new to be an ideal choice for most racing. Not enough hp for the weight either. Tires, yeah track oriented I'll give you that point above other GM cars that come to mind. |
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12-03-2019, 05:49 AM | #23 |
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I'll inject my $.02 here. Not just because I have one, but because the car has lauded many magazine editors and car reviewers around the globe. The C7 Grand Sport should be placed into this discussion as well. You can search the net and find dozens of articles of how this car has beaten or hung with cars costing double it's price tag. I've had the car for almost two years now and I can say without a doubt, it is a razor-sharp track weapon that is almost incapable of being upset when pushed hard. Many reviewers have even called it the perfect C7. It is most certainly subjective, but it is a very fair assessment.
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12-03-2019, 07:16 AM | #24 | |
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12-03-2019, 07:34 AM | #25 | |
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I was just reading about them a couple nights ago. I read it has shitty oversteer problems (the article I read was talking about how they fixed it in the C8 due to the mid-engine)....or maybe it was understeer; can't remember...just they basically said it wasn't very comfortable coming out of sharp turns in the track even with a professional driver. I haven't driven one, especially on a track, so I can't say whether thats accurate or not. |
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12-03-2019, 08:30 AM | #26 | |
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Lots of variables though... throttle inputs, brake input, alignment, tire specs, etc etc...
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Once all that stuff was done -- it was pretty damn fun. Didn't ever want to drive it on the public roads however. |
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