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Old 04-17-2021, 09:45 AM   #15
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You'll end up hating the car. Everytime I try to get wild n/a I regret it and end up wishing I'd supercharged. If money isn't a concern and you just want a show/strip car, go for it. If it's going to be driven daily save yourself the headache and sc it.
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:20 AM   #16
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If you plan on making this nothing but a NA car King makes a good point on raising the compression as well. I chose to stay around the stock compression because I plan on adding a Procharger later on down the road.
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Old 04-17-2021, 01:01 PM   #17
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I really appreciate this input. Very helpful. For my needs, it’s not about daily driving. I always have a race car I put up with on the street. It’s just more fun for me this way and I’m competitive at the track (time attack). Never really thought about a Camaro for my type of circuit track racing, but that’s kind of the point. Something different with a glorious V8. Been doing 700whp rice box (EVO). Time for a change. On a budget this time. Trying to not to build from scratch, but I can’t find anything done already. The cost of my project is an issue when I learn heads cost $4500. Oh my! That kind of talk limits me pretty quick.

I did find 1SS 1LE with a whipple SC. ?? No records of work done. 27,000 miles. Anyone know this car? The ‘17 1LE’s with low miles are $37-40k. Kind of surprising.
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Old 04-17-2021, 01:20 PM   #18
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I really appreciate this input. Very helpful. For my needs, it’s not about daily driving. I always have a race car I put up with on the street. It’s just more fun for me this way and I’m competitive at the track (time attack). Never really thought about a Camaro for my type of circuit track racing, but that’s kind of the point. Something different with a glorious V8. Been doing 700whp rice box (EVO). Time for a change. On a budget this time. Trying to not to build from scratch, but I can’t find anything done already. The cost of my project is an issue when I learn heads cost $4500. Oh my! That kind of talk limits me pretty quick.

I did find 1SS 1LE with a whipple SC. ?? No records of work done. 27,000 miles. Anyone know this car? The ‘17 1LE’s with low miles are $37-40k. Kind of surprising.
I'm always a little weary when somebody trades/sell a low mileage modified car. Some people take care of their stuff but most of the time there's an underlying issue they don't want to deal with so they just get rid of it and pawn the problem off on you. Welcome to the 6th gen world where everything is expensive from exhaust to motor.. Wait until you find out the prices to fuel some of these monsters if you decide to buy the Whipple 1le and want to push it to 700 like your evo.
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Old 04-17-2021, 02:27 PM   #19
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Agreed. Dealers are the worst right now. I bet I have called 3 dealers today and nobody knows anything about a 1LE, the history, or anything. It’s brutal. 3 dealerships phone systems didn’t work or kept disconnecting me. The chat function was a 30 minute process to send my contact info to and never get any call or info back in return. I finally started asking for managers. One place has a 2018 1LE for 51,000. I got ahold of sales person finally and asked how much gold was in the trunk? When I pointed out I could buy a 2021, she said they just got that in and wait for the automatic computer to lower price if it doesn’t sell. I was like.....money in hand now and you won’t deal at current market values? She said no, it’s all the computer. Two dealers said the 1LE’s I inquired about had different wheels. Nope! Those are the 1LE wheels. So frustrating.

The whipple charged car has no list of mods or work history. The guy actually said it has a whipple. I asked about anything else and he said no, he sells these cars all the time and it’s bad ass with 800hp. Can u send me the dyno? No, I don’t do dyno’s he said but you can come drive it. I was like....who buys this kind of car with no info? How do you know it has 800hp? He said it just sounds like it. Hahaha! Amazing.

Very unimpressed with the new & used sales people these days. Clueless!
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Old 04-17-2021, 02:36 PM   #20
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Want to build a fun car for late night fun and time attack track days. Specifically, HP potential in a 2017 or newer 1LE
* CAI
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* headers
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* e85
* manifold
* ported throttle body

Just curious what a reasonable HP ceiling is before getting exotic and wishing you got a ZL1 1LE instead. I see a lot of 500-515whp projects. Can you get 600whp?

No nitrous, Turbo, or super charger. No alky either.

And does anyone have their favorite cammed LT1? I want a chop chop that draws attention and crowds in parking lots. ��

Thanks. First time ever considering American. Want to lay down some American Attitude Loud & Proud.
Yes, a custom valve train (cam thru valves), p/p heads, LT headers, green cats, maybe a catback, and good tune will get you close, then we could get into the short block with....
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Old 04-17-2021, 05:44 PM   #21
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I’m at 550 without heads, rotating assy, and stock fuel and ignition system. Granted that’s on e85. But yes. I would say 600 wheel hp is achievable. I’m also at 7000ft elevation.
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Old 04-18-2021, 07:25 AM   #22
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I’m also at 7000ft elevation.
Not in Texas. Do you live in Colorado or New Mexico?
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:24 AM   #23
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Not in Texas. Do you live in Colorado or New Mexico?
Ruifoso New Mexico.
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Old 04-18-2021, 11:08 AM   #24
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Ruifoso New Mexico.
Damn, an even lower DA than Denver. Well, the good news is your Dynojet will correct your HP back to sea level.
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Old 04-19-2021, 09:41 AM   #25
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Damn, an even lower DA than Denver. Well, the good news is your Dynojet will correct your HP back to sea level.
Yup. Corrected I’m close to 570 at sea level. But I’m not in the business of claiming sea level HP when I run at a much higher elevation.
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Old 04-19-2021, 09:48 AM   #26
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Yup. Corrected I’m close to 570 at sea level. But I’m not in the business of claiming sea level HP when I run at a much higher elevation.
But you probably should because everyone else does. I do.
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2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next.
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Well then can I just claim my crank HP. Lol. I’m big balling in the low 600s then.
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Old 04-19-2021, 11:36 AM   #28
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Well then can I just claim my crank HP. Lol. I’m big balling in the low 600s then.
Although impractical it would be better if we all had engine dyno results instead of chassis dyno results. Of course all of my past race engines from Reher, Sonny, Kaase, TRE, Nickens, etc. were engine dyno'd. This is the first car that I've had chassis dyno'd in almost 20 years. My recent GTRs were remote tuned.
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4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes).
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