[Msquared]

Like some of the most base-model Camaros, my 202 1SS 1LE came with the most basic IOS stereo system available in a 6th-gen: a dash display screen controlling a radio module behind the dash to the right of the glovebox, two 2.5” wide-range dash speakers, two 6x9 woofers in the doors, and two round 5.25” two-way speakers in the rear-seat side panels. The front four speakers function as component set, with each dash speaker handling the highs and most mids and the door speakers handling the lower frequencies. The rear speakers are for rear fill, I guess, and are really just a round cone with a whizzer. They don’t get a full-range signal from the radio module, either. There is no amp in the trunk at all from the factory, no rear-shelf speakers (there are openings though), and no center dash speaker. Starting in 2019, GM moved away from the MOST communication protocol and changed to an ethernet-based AVB protocol. This means that all the electronics that interfaced with the 2016-2018 Camaros doesn’t work on mine.

While I thought this OE stereo was actually better than it had a right to be, I wanted to upgrade it. My goal was better sound quality rather than quantity (SPL). I listen to a wide variety of music and at home I have what most would consider an audiophile-quality system. I wanted to improve detail retrieval, frequency extension at both extremes, dynamics, refinement, and hopefully get a little bit of imaging (accurate sound placement across soundstage depth and width). IOW, I wanted a more realistic playback of the information stored on the source recordings. Because this is also a car I use to compete in autocross competition, I did not want to add much weight. I also wanted to keep this a pretty low-budget system. These criteria ruled out subwoofers, giant amps, and slabs of heavy sound-deadening material. Realizing that this car is not super-quiet inside, especially when I have the OE or other race tires on it, I didn’t need this system to live up to my home system’s performance. I just wanted something that plays music well.

A final goal was to avoid cutting any factory wiring if possible. When I started this project, there was not yet any interface to plug into the factory radio module of a non-amplified 2019+ GM vehicle like a NAV-TV. It looks like Axxess is coming out with such a product, but I haven’t looked into it. I was able to find speaker adapters for the door speakers and I made some for the dash speakers using the plugs from my stock dash speakers. But getting signals to an amp would require tapping into the factory speaker wires or fabbing up a harness. We’ll get back to that later.

My initial plan was to upgrade the dash and door speakers and just not use the rear side-panel speakers, knowing that I would probably want some kind of amp upgrade from the meager output of the factor radio module. The factory speakers are 4-ohm rated, unlike the Bose, so this made compatibility with aftermarket speakers easier. I settled on Audiofrog GS25 speakers for the dash, and GS690 for the doors. I chose these because the GS25s are specifically made as replacements for these types of dash speakers in GM, Toyota, and a couple other brands of cars and they have tabs for this so you can drop them right in with no adapters required. Also, both pairs of speakers have high sensitivity, meaning they would play well on the factory power and that any amp I used down the road would not have to be huge and powerful. Finally, the GS25 has about the widest frequency range of any “twiddler” I found, going down to 200hz. That’s nice to get most of the midrange out of the crossover frequency. These are not cheap speakers. There is a much cheaper Kenwood twiddler that also drops in. It might sound okay, but it is much less sensitive and it has less extended highs and lows.

The factory “crossover” for the front component drivers is just a 68uF capacitor in the positive signal to the dash speakers, which create a high-pass filter at around 585hz. I left this in the circuit, but I’d recommend you ditch that and use a 200uF capacitor instead. This gives a crossover frequency of about 200hz, which is what Audiofrog recommends for the GS25 (other speakers may want a different crossover frequency). I used Metra 82-3017 speaker adapters to allow the 6x9 door speakers to attach in the factory manner, and a Stinger RKFR69 Roadkill kit to help get a decent seal and backwave attenuation. I used all the factory speaker wires, using Metra adapters for the door speakers (72-5600). For the dash, there seems to be no real adapter option on the market, so I made my own by cutting the connectors off the factory speakers and soldering a couple inches of wire and some spade connectors to them, like so:



Just upgrading these four drivers and fading down the rear speakers really made a big difference in sound quality. I was immediately getting the detail and frequency extensions I wanted, along with a big dose of refinement. These speakers were also louder than the factory speakers. They were clearly more sensitive than the factory cheapies. So far, so good. I was less than $600 invested (including adapters and such), and could have stopped here. In fact, I did use it for about three months like this.

I came across the Kicker KEY180.4 that combines a 45W x 4 power amp with automatic 40-band EQ, 24dB/octave active crossover, and time alignment. It’s a pretty small unit, too, which gave me hope that I could stuff it under the dash. It’s also cheap: around $250 for the newer KEY200.4 that’s slightly more powerful. I got a new 180.4 for a good bit less. One really enticing feature for my needs is that it has a “biamp” mode: instead of sending four different channels of power to four full-range speakers, you can send two channels to the high-frequency drivers in a component setup and the other two to the low-frequency woofers, and the amp will set up an active crossover according to the frequency range capabilities of the drivers. One of its two crossover frequency options is just for a “twiddler” dash speaker setup like the Camaro’s, and it uses a high-pass active crossover at 320hz and a low-pass at 640hz. Perfect! This would allow a higher-quality crossover than a cheap capacitor in the signal path, and would really make this sound like much more than 45W through a passive crossover. The Kicker does this along with the EQ and time delay all by itself: you set a little microphone (included) on the headrest of the driver’s seat, push a button, and it sends all kinds of sounds out of the speakers while it sets everything for a targeted sound profile. It runs cool and weighs a pound or less. And it takes speaker-level inputs which is all that’s available out of the factory radio module. Cool! Here’s a video that shows an install/calibration and explains the functions. I would have wondered if this was all too good to be true, but the reviews were quite good, even from hard-core car stereo gurus. Take a look at the end of that video, where they discuss the results of their installation.

The last piece of the puzzle was how to tap the speaker-level wires and get power and ground to the amp. For the speaker-level signals, I knew I needed to tap the front outputs of the radio module, but I didn’t want to cut the wires if I could avoid it. The connectors to that module are different for 2019+, and nobody offered an adapter. There are two big connectors that appear identical in all but color, but all four front-channel wires are pinned to the “X2” plug that is grey in color (the X1 connector is black). There are 29 different wires from each of these connectors in total, though! This is what I’m talking about:





I needed a “breakout harness” with a male plug into the module, a female plug for the factory harness to plug into, and all the wiring passing through between them except for the four front speaker outputs which needed to be cut (“broken out”) to allow the amp to be inserted inline. Simple concept, but making one myself was daunting, and the connectors would be expensive if I could even really get them. I emailed Gen5DIY and described what I wanted, and they agreed to make one. I had to wait a couple months because supplies of the connectors were delayed due to COVID (as were lots of other GM parts!). Once I finally got it, I was ready to install my amp. I apologize for forgetting to take a picture of the harness before installing it. However, it looks just like you’d think it looks.

To install the breakout harness, you need to remove the big “Multiuse Module Bracket” under the passenger side of the dash. It’s four 7mm screws, then you push it back toward the firewall and it comes down. I didn’t have to disconnect the one module that it holds. This process is described in this video, starting at 6:23. Here’s a pic from the Factory Service Manual:



Luckily, you don’t have to remove the radio module like they describe in that video! You can get underneath the dash and see the bottom edge of the radio module well enough on the right side of the space. Here’s a pic from the manual that gives you a good idea where it is:



To remove the X2 connector, you pull back (down toward the floor, really) a little tab. Then you squeeze the release tab and pull the connector out of the module (see the diagram of the connector above). The male end of the harness then plugs into the module, and the factory male connector plugs into the female end of the breakout harness. You’re left with four wires coming from the radio unit that you will connect to the inputs of the amp, and four wires that go back into the factory wire harness to the four speakers that you will connect to your amp’s outputs. Here are two pics of my harness after I installed it. The first is just the picture, the second highlights the breakout harness in yellow and the factory wiring harness in red so you know what you’re looking out. The aluminum heat sink is the radio module. The pic is a little overexposed, so the gray plugs look white – sorry.





In my case, I was going to use the biamp option of the Kicker amp and would therefore have eight wires coming back to the four front speakers. I still used the factory harness to send the woofer signals to the 6x9s in the doors. This was convenient and I didn’t want to remove the door panels again. I hate removing interior trim panels! I was going to need to remove the dash speakers anyway so I could remove the high-pass capacitors in their positive leads, so I just ran new speaker wires from them over to the right side under the dash. I left the factory speaker wire and connectors in there just in case I ever want to revert back to a stock connection for some reason.

I had hoped to mount the amp on the Multiuse Module Bracket, but it was a bit too big to fit in there without cutting up the bracket. Then I also would have to figure out a power lead as well as a way to get the calibration mic plugged in to the amp when needed (it doesn’t need to stay connected when not in use). I might have been able to make it work, but I decided that it was better to mount the amp in the trunk. I settled on mounting it over the MRC module, which is where the factory amp would mount in a 2SS Camaro with MRC shocks:



I made a bracket out of plastic and screwed it to the MRC bracket just like the stock amp setup. I screwed the Kicker KEY180.4 to it:



I ran 10awg wire to the battery post for the power lead, and 10awg wire to a nearby ground lug. I was able to run cable to the trunk from the radio module area fairly easily, without having to remove the rear interior side panel (which seems like a hassle): I removed the rear seat bottom and back (very easy), the door sill trim (super easy), the two round plastic push trim connectors that hold the carpet down under the sill trim (use a trim tool!), and finally the one front piece of the big rear side panel that snaps into the sill area (also very easy). That allowed me to run cables by tucking them up under the bottom edge of the rear side panel in one spot (easy to do with the other stuff removed), and I followed the giant red battery cable forward toward the firewall. I used 16/4 cable for the run from the Radio Module to the amp inputs (I could have used 18/4 but Home Depot only had the larger cable in stock), and I used Metra MC-918-20 9-conductor “speed wire” for the run from the amp’s speaker outputs back to the speaker connections near the radio module.

Once everything was connected, I waited for evening when there would not be much ambient noise (nearby housing construction is a daily thing for me) and ran the calibration process. It all went as planned and I got the “happy noise” at the end of the process. I got in and listened for a bit and was immediately happy with the results. Then I put the interior stuff back in and ran it again, because the missing back seat in particular would affect the calibration. When you run the calibration, you have to make sure any speakers not powered by the KEY180.4 (in my case, the rears) are turned off (just turn the fader all the way to the front in my case) and that the factory equalizer bands are all set in the middle. Afterward the calibration is set, you can fade the unpowered speakers back in if you want (I don’t) and you can futz with the factory equalizer if you want to adjust the sound. I have added a bit of midrange and treble to the Kicker’s equalization.

The sound is great! The frequency range is much more even now, and there is far more control over the low bass notes. Unless you’re into thumping SPL sound-off competitions, you may not miss a subwoofer at all with the setup I have. And now there is legit imaging! I’ve retained the good ambience and detail I had with just the speaker upgrades before the amp install, but it’s better integrated to the sound as a whole. And all the detail comes without any penalty of harshness. I still have the gains at minimum. I might move them up a bit, but right now it plays pretty loud as is. And at this setting, the chimes are probably no louder than stock. This is a very musical system, and I have found myself just sitting in the car after arriving at my destination just to listen to more music. I am really, really pleased with the performance, and I’m still around $800 all in. Undoubtedly it is possible to improve on it with a higher-end amp and separate DSP. But for a budget system that doesn’t require much time to calibrate and that plays actual music really well, this has exceeded my expectations.

Other ways to skin this cat:

• If you don’t want to mess with an active crossover and auto EQ, you could use the same speakers I did and install a mini amp in the Multiuse Module Bracket and not have to run cables to the trunk at all. One such amp that I looked at is the Mosconi Pico 2. This could be a compact, even lighter, good-sounding, minimalist system.
• If you don’t want to mess with an active crossover and auto EQ and you want bigger power, you could mount a bigger 2-channel amp in the trunk and just use one run of speed wire, using four conductors for the speaker-level inputs and another four for the amp outputs.
• You could do subs with this Gen5DIY breakout harness: just split each of the four front speaker outputs from the radio module into two and use the second set to run signals to the sub(s). If you do this, it might be better to use 6” round GS60 speakers in the doors instead of 6x9 (probably a bit more accuracy and integration with the GS25s). Unless you want a really big sub, it may make more sense to use two smaller subs in the rear deck 6x9 holes (there is nothing mounted in these unless you have the Bose system). Audiofrog has a new 8” sub that might be adaptable. But again, the GS690 is rated down to 42Hz, and that’s low enough to cover the lowest bass guitar notes. There really isn’t a lot of music signal lower than that in most music, so before you decide that you just have to have a sub, you should listen to a really good, low-ranging 6x9 with a decent amp. You might find that door-mounted woofers are all you need.
• If you really want the rear side speakers powered, you can run a 4-channel amp from the trunk. However, the breakout harness that Gen5DIY made for me will not get the job done because one of the rear-speaker negative leads is on the black X1 connector instead of the gray X2 connector. Who knows why? Since you have to take the rear side panels off to get to these speakers anyway, it probably makes more sense to splice into the speaker wires for your rear channel signals while you’re in there than to add the second harness connectors to your breakout harness. But I think the cost of new speakers and two additional amp channels is hard to justify since nobody is ever going to sit back there and the speakers are really only good for rear fill.

[WhyUMad1LE]

Nice write up! I have the GS25s in my dash running 200HZ and up off a Mosconi AS. Initially they reduced the harshness of the factory system and now they are breaking in they make music enjoyable. I liked them so much I have GS690s on the way.

Do you feel the rear seat speakers are worth replacing?



Last year I ran Audison AV K6 and they just didn't sound right in the factory locations. The drivers felt too small for the cabin.

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

Nice write up! I have the GS25s in my dash running 200HZ and up off a Mosconi AS. Initially they reduced the harshness of the factory system and now they are breaking in they make music enjoyable. I liked them so much I have GS690s on the way.

Do you feel the rear seat speakers are worth replacing?

I don't use the rear speakers at all, and I don't miss them. If I did use them, then perhaps it would be worth replacing them with a GS62 round speakers. but I don't see a reason to use them at all, especially with the GS690s in the doors. I'm no expert, so maybe someone with real experience in car audio can give a good reason to run the rear speakers.

[SWRocket]

Nice install Matt!
I'll be installing my AF GS690 and GS25s soon also along with SEAS tweeters for a 3-way front.
Question on the rear speakers...The backup sensors come through those I believe, do you notice them missing?
I'm debating whether to change mine (Bose) to 4Ohm 5"1/4 just to keep the back up sensors...I have the extra amp channels available anyway...

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by SWRocket

Nice install Matt!
I'll be installing my AF GS690 and GS25s soon also along with SEAS tweeters for a 3-way front.
Question on the rear speakers...The backup sensors come through those I believe, do you notice them missing?
I'm debating whether to change mine (Bose) to 4Ohm 5"1/4 just to keep the back up sensors...I have the extra amp channels available anyway...

Hmm, I'm not sure I've ever heard any backup sensor sounds from my car, to be honest - even when I didn't fade the rear speakers all the way out. Now I will have to go try to back into an object just to see if they ever make noise, LOL! I would assume they are set up to make the same volume of noise regardless of the fader setting, so that someone can't unintentionally just fade them out. If so, nothing should have changed on mine because my rear speakers are still connected to the radio unit outputs via the factory wiring harness. The only reason they aren't playing music right now is because I have the fader adjusted all the way forward.

[Thill444]

Originally Posted by Msquared

Hmm, I'm not sure I've ever heard any backup sensor sounds from my car, to be honest - even when I didn't fade the rear speakers all the way out. Now I will have to go try to back into an object just to see if they ever make noise, LOL! I would assume they are set up to make the same volume of noise regardless of the fader setting, so that someone can't unintentionally just fade them out. If so, nothing should have changed on mine because my rear speakers are still connected to the radio unit outputs via the factory wiring harness. The only reason they aren't playing music right now is because I have the fader adjusted all the way forward.

He has the 2SS w/Bose. The 2SS has backup sensors the 1SS does not.

BTW, your writeup is extremely well done. I am definitely leaning towards something similar and you paved the way with Gen5DIY for the rest of us with 1SS/1LE cars which is very helpful. I have been so happy with swapping out my front speakers and adding a sub, but for this price range and some DIY effort it seems like a nice bang for the buck upgrade, and I can add some power to the main speakers as they can easily handle it.

Well done sir!

Not sure when I will go down this path, but I may have questions

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by Thill444

He has the 2SS w/Bose. The 2SS has backup sensors the 1SS does not.

Well...that explains a lot! I still think what I said would be true: my setup retains full factory power and signal the rear speakers, so I assume any chimes/warnings/etc would still play through them at the same volume as before.

BTW, your writeup is extremely well done. I am definitely leaning towards something similar and you paved the way with Gen5DIY for the rest of us with 1SS/1LE cars which is very helpful. I have been so happy with swapping out my front speakers and adding a sub, but for this price range and some DIY effort it seems like a nice bang for the buck upgrade, and I can add some power to the main speakers as they can easily handle it.

Well done sir!

Not sure when I will go down this path, but I may have questions

Thanks, and I hope this is helpful. Feel free to ask away!

[SWRocket]

Originally Posted by Thill444

He has the 2SS w/Bose. The 2SS has backup sensors the 1SS does not.

Ah, didn't realize that lol.
I'll put in some cheap (but good) 5 1/4" Daytons and play around with it. Worse case I'll just mute them in the miniDSP...

[SomeGeoffGuy]

If you can find a good Parts Counter guy at the dealer, you can order all those connectors as repair parts. They usually come with the connector body, all the snap together pieces, wire retainers, and some wires that have the terminals crimped on the end already. It is hard to find a parts guy that knows how to first find them, then order it properly, though.

-Geoff

[Plasar]

* Awesome MSSquared, this post is in the running for "Best Post Ever"!

* Curiosity: what is your home audiophile setup? Mine is McIntosh MC205 amp + MX 120 processor, B&W 805 nautilus front & center, B&W cheapos rear, and Sunfire True EQ 12 sub. A new LG 55" OLED gives nice dark blacks for the video.

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by Plasar

* Awesome MSSquared, this post is in the running for "Best Post Ever"!

Thanks!

* Curiosity: what is your home audiophile setup? Mine is McIntosh MC205 amp + MX 120 processor, B&W 805 nautilus front & center, B&W cheapos rear, and Sunfire True EQ 12 sub. A new LG 55" OLED gives nice dark blacks for the video.

It's all pretty old now, but plays music exceedingly well:

• Jeff Rowland Consonance preamp with phone stage.
• Brown Electronics Labs (BEL) 1001 mk2 (not one of the most well known amps, but shockingly good for its price).
• Vandersteen 3A Signature speakers.
• Michell Mycro turntable with Moerch UP-4 tonearm and Shelter 501 cartridge.
• Assemblage DAC 3.0 with D2D-1 sample rate converter fed by an Audio Alchemy DDS Pro transport.

One of these days I'm going to have to join the 21st century and get some kind of server setup so I can play files and stream music.

[lowandslow88]

Thanks for the in-depth post, I've read through it about 5 times and I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're saying. It sounds like the Kicker 47KEY200.4 and the GS25 for the dash is a no-brainer. For the doors, i'm not understanding whether the 6x9 or 6" mids makes more sense.

My understanding is that my 1LE will have no rear deck speakers which seems like a prime spot for some bass oriented speakers. I'll keep reading around to see what people have installed back there but if the doors are good enough they may not be needed. One issue I see is adding a 5th and 6th speaker that are not integrated with the imaging of the kicker amp. Would this be a problem?

Would also really appreciate a definitive opinion on what the best route would be for only 4 speakers, the 6x9's or the 6's for the doors.

Thanks again!

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by lowandslow88

Thanks for the in-depth post, I've read through it about 5 times and I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're saying. It sounds like the Kicker 47KEY200.4 and the GS25 for the dash is a no-brainer. For the doors, i'm not understanding whether the 6x9 or 6" mids makes more sense.

My understanding is that my 1LE will have no rear deck speakers which seems like a prime spot for some bass oriented speakers. I'll keep reading around to see what people have installed back there but if the doors are good enough they may not be needed. One issue I see is adding a 5th and 6th speaker that are not integrated with the imaging of the kicker amp. Would this be a problem?

Would also really appreciate a definitive opinion on what the best route would be for only 4 speakers, the 6x9's or the 6's for the doors.

Thanks again!

I'll tackle the easy answer first. If you're only going to have four total drivers (dash and door speakers) like I do and you're using the Audiofrog GS line of speakers with their GS25 in the dash like I did, then the 6x9 GS690 is a better choice for the doors than the 6" round GS60. It just plays lower and louder if all else is equal, and the GS25 plays more than low enough to "hand off" low frequencies well within the GS690's comfort zone*. OTOH, if you're adding some sort of subwoofer, then the GS60 might make sense.

Your 1LE will not have speakers in the rear deck, but there are holes in the sheet metal there for 6x9s that come with the Bose setup. If you're just talking about adding full-range "rear fill" speakers (like a 3-way 6x9), I wouldn't bother. But I agree that this could be a good location for one or two small subs. If I were willing to add the weight and expense of a sub, then I would be interested in two Audiofrog GS8ND wired in series to a mono sub amp back there (like the Kicker KEY500.1). They are designed to be used in a free-air/infinite-baffle (no box) setup, and they are shallow enough to not take up much trunk space. There are probably lots of options here that I haven't researched because it just wasn't part of my plan. However, I haven't seen anyone else post that they used two smaller sub drivers in the deck like this in a Camaro - most people just put one big sub in the side of the trunk in a box. I don't know enough to say how that works/sounds.

*In fact, Andy Wehmeyer (Audiofrog's proprietor and tech guru) has said that if you're driving front channels like this with at least 75w, then you might be even better off using their GS8ND, which is a shallow 8" woofer designed for under-seat and other tucked-away locations. This wasn't quite on the market yet when I planned my install, but it would also require some extra work to fit it in the doors whereas the GS690 was a drop-in fit...and I wasn't going to be using that much power.

[lowandslow88]

Awesome thanks! I don’t really want a sub in the trunk and I’d prefer to get a good enough sound from the front four, so I’ll do the 6x9’s and go from there. I did buy this car for performance after all.