01-07-2022, 03:37 PM | #1 |
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I decided to call Mike today to discuss using the Vindicator 2 LT1/LT4 "SC" Port Plate System with a Procharger. It appears that if I go with the Procharger I can keep stock fueling and use their SC plate (Stock Coil). This is great feedback.
I’m sharing this for anyone who may also want to go with Procharger. https://www.toohighpsi.com/product-p...t-plate-system
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Originally Posted by arpad_m - “Aww, yet another oil thread with almost the same question in the OP“ |
01-07-2022, 05:30 PM | #2 |
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Another plus for Mike!
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01-08-2022, 08:24 AM | #3 |
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Mike and Mike Jr plus a bunch of old Magnuson Employee' are going to do a lot of great things for the Lt1/4 platform. They are putting those new Haas machines to the test. Not just saying that because he was my old boss at Magnuson, but he was pretty much is responsible for the creation of the 2650 that many are running now plus the 2650s for the Copo's.
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01-08-2022, 09:28 AM | #4 |
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If you’re running LT1 injectors and HPFP and think you’re going to start modding your LT1 with any kind of forced induction, this is a no brainer.
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Between what Mike Jr., cjperformance, and airtroop accomplished the only real decision will be whether I stick with the Procharger or move to 2650. I’m hearing lead time for 2650 is 14 weeks. There’s enough time between now and spring before this project starts. If I do decide to go 2650, I’ll need to order that soon.
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Originally Posted by arpad_m - “Aww, yet another oil thread with almost the same question in the OP“ |
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The Dominator setup from Crawford with dual widebands is the gold standard for PI in my opinion but again, overkill for most builds. TooHighPsi sells the MAF Fusion control which is simple and effective enough.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CPPGteMh_DO/ https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...10&postcount=1
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Originally Posted by arpad_m - “Aww, yet another oil thread with almost the same question in the OP“ |
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01-10-2022, 01:33 PM | #9 |
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Just making some conversation and speculation...
I have zero experience with secondary port injection, but as a general rule simpler is better. I went with LT4 injectors & HPFP... + DSX low side... In hindsight, with similar goals maybe the only thing I would have done differently is go with even larger injectors and HPFP to run full E. Not sure if I would need a cam w/ larger fuel lobe at that point. So I think the deciding factor for me between larger capacity DI vs supplementary port would be whether I would need to add a cam to support DI only. I like the idea of playing with secondary port injection, but for a primarily street driven setup... I might worry about the complexity of having two systems. Just some thoughts, again pure speculation... With DI + Port... I would think risks are similar as with DI + Meth from a fueling perspective... Meaning a failure in the supplemental port inj might still allow the engine to run lean, where with ONLY DI if there's a pump failure, it would be more likely to get zero fuel, or not enough to keep runnning, where with supplemental... there might be enough fueling happening to run lean for longer? Personally I would prefer to exhaust my DI fueling options (heh heh) before going with supplemental port. If you were doing it for fun, that's different! I would love to do it just for the tuning experience. |
01-11-2022, 03:32 PM | #10 |
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Any Idea which way you will tune?
Are you going to tune off a second map or IPW base operation off of TPS?
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01-11-2022, 03:34 PM | #11 |
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[QUOTE=cjperformance;11118635]
I like the idea of playing with secondary port injection, but for a primarily street driven setup... I might worry about the complexity of having two systems. Sounds like you been reading JRE posts!
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01-12-2022, 09:20 AM | #14 |
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Lol, that and personal experience as a software developer and general tinkerer.
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